0:00And welcome back to the Change Your Mind podcast.
0:02I'm your host, Kris Ashley and I explore the intersection between personal development, spirituality and science.
0:08And I'm excited to have you here today.
0:11I'm also really excited to have my guest here today.
0:13Laura West is on with me.
0:16Hi, I'm Kris.
0:17When I was younger I went through trauma that caused me to feel broken and lost.
0:22But my life changed after I had a spiritual awakening.
0:25Since then, I've dedicated my life to studying and learning from masters all around the world that have helped me to create a life of fulfillment and abundance beyond my wildest dreams.
0:35Now, I'm dedicated to sharing everything I've learned so that you don't have to suffer for decades.
0:39Like I did, I've seen people's lives completely transform and I share it all right here.
0:47Laura is a reg registered nurse, a psychic medium, an author and a podcast host.
0:53So welcome Laura.
0:54I'm I'm really happy you can make the time today.
0:57Well, thanks so much for having me.
0:58Such a pleasure.
1:00Yeah.
1:00So, ok, that's, that's quite the, the bio, right?
1:04Registered nurse and then psychic medium.
1:07Those things seem really conflicting to a lot of people.
1:10Can you talk about what your journey has been like to?
1:14Didn't you have a spiritual awakening if I'm not misunderstanding?
1:17Yeah, I did, I had a couple.
1:19So,, I did,, what's, what sort of spearheaded my desire to work in health care was when I was a teenager, my grandmother died from cancer and it was like, quick, you know, it's like six weeks she found out she had it four weeks.
1:40We were at her funeral sort of thing.
1:41It was really fast.
1:43And then that one, we found out she had it and then six weeks later we're at her funeral.
1:50I think that didn't make any sense.
1:51Ok, I was trying to do the math in my head and I was like, I trust that, you know what you're talking about.
1:55And I was pregnancy brain so weird.
1:59It was like something took over my body just then.
2:01Ok.
2:02Anyway, so what was interesting around that time?
2:05So I, I was actually going more in the route of journalism.
2:09Like I wanted to, I was on like the school newspaper staff and I was going that route.
2:14But when my grandmother was diagnosed with cancer and then, and then died from it, I decided I wanted to go into health care.
2:24So that's what sort of spearheaded that part of my journey into nursing.
2:32I guess what's kind of interesting, I never thought about it that way this way until now was that it was also my grandmother, same grandmother who sort of spearheaded my whole journey into medium ship.
2:52So it's kind of interesting, she kind of spearheaded both parts of my journey.
2:58So the night that she passed away, we went to visit her in hospice that day.
3:06And then that night I had a dream that my grandmother came to me in the arm of my grandfather who at the time was alive.
3:17And I said, grandma, you're all better because I'd just seen her laying in a, in a bed in hospice, you know, ventilator breathing for her eyes were closed, not there.
3:26And I said, grandma, you're all better.
3:29And she said, yes I am.
3:30And then it was the next day we found out that she had passed well.
3:33She had continued to play a role in my journey.
3:37From then lots of dream visitations and signs and all that good stuff.
3:41So, that led me into I don't know, a couple years later, I found Sylvia Brown books for the first time.
3:50I can't even remember how that came about.
3:53But once I did, I couldn't get enough of what Sylvia Browne was teaching.
3:57She was a psychic medium who wrote a lot about spirituality of the other side, spirit guides.
4:02All these concepts that were new to me, having grown up in a Jewish and Christian household.
4:07So but what, but what I read from her resonated so deeply.
4:12And I had my first spiritual awakening then because I just couldn't get enough.
4:17I felt like I was awakened to what in my soul felt right.
4:20And that's when I met my spirit guide Jason in a dream and all that good stuff.
4:25So that was spiritual awakening number one.
4:28And then I did the college thing I went to nursing school, got married, had Children, got a house like all the human stuff to get nice and grounded and have this nice foundation to then have spiritual awakening.
4:41Number two, which happened in 2019 because I started meditating and it was there that things just really took off because I learned to hone in on my intuition.
4:50I learned to follow the intuitive breadcrumbs.
4:52I worked very closely with my guides.
4:55My grandmother was there as well and that's what led me to learn what it felt like to be guided to do.
5:02The next thing which started off with meditation.
5:07Then it turned into channel, writing turned into energy healing, turned into psychic mediumship, turned into writing a book, turned into starting a podcast.
5:15So I started to follow these breadcrumbs.
5:17So from 2019 to now all of that transpired rather quickly.
5:21So I say that spiritual awakening number two happened in 2019.
5:25I'm still doing the nursing thing as well.
5:27So doing it in conjunction with the spiritual stuff.
5:30But to me, even though nursing is very evidence based in science and and all that, there's still a very human component to it with caring for patients, working with others who are caring for people as well in this environment.
5:49And a lot of the times we learn, I learned this in nursing school about that nursing s sixth sense, which is intuition.
5:59So even in nursing intuition plays a huge role, just a gut feeling about something.
6:05and then, you know, dealing with a lot of death and, and birth and sickness and, and times in people's lives where they're, they're at their worst or, you know, even at their best having babies and being happy about that.
6:22So there's a lot where nursing really allows you to be a part of people's good, bad, ugly.
6:30And there's a lot of maybe going back to spirituality for the nurse, for the patient during those moments.
6:38And so I feel like even though nursing is very much set in evidence, like I mentioned before, there is such an intuitive spiritual human component to it as well.
6:51So a nice balance.
6:52Yeah, that's really beautiful.
6:54What kind of nurse are you, by the way?
6:55I don't know if you mentioned.
6:56Yeah.
6:56So most of my career has been an outpatient working in primary care right now.
7:03I train other nurses in some of the protocols that we use when triaging patients over the phone but I would probably say that my specialty really lies in virtual like telemedicine.
7:16OK.
7:18So, you know, you kind of touched on how you're able to juggle these two different worlds.
7:24You know, have you ever found that there's a conflict between Western medicine and the energy healing that you mentioned that you've learned.
7:32I think that for me personally, what I loved about energy healing was it allowed me to incorporate and, and infuse together my nursing and that healing and energy and spirituality.
7:50So I really love the encompassing of both and with the energy healing, we're healing the P I mean, yeah, you're healing.
7:59He may well healing.
8:00We're helping to improve some of the physical ailments.
8:04But a lot of it too is working on the energetic body that we can't see, you know, the aura or the chakras, whatever.
8:11And so I feel like that doesn't get addressed so much in the hospital or in the clinics.
8:18So for me, just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there.
8:22I mean, I think you said it best Chris in your book that we only see 0.035% of the, of the light spectrum of the world.
8:32003 5%.
8:35It's even less.
8:37So, I mean, think about what there's so much we can't see.
8:40So you know, who, who is anybody to say that there's not stuff going on around our bodies as well.
8:48So, you know, with that knowledge and that open mindedness and just the circumstantial evidence of doing healing sessions on people or talking to people who've had Reiki or whatever and how they felt improvement.
9:04I don't care if it's a placebo effect effect.
9:06If there is improvement, there's, there's improvement who's to deny that.
9:10So, for me, I feel like it really melds the two together.
9:15I feel like the hospitals, there's, there's room for improvement there.
9:22I know that like a lot of like in the ecology units, they'll have any energy healers come in as volunteers.
9:30But I would love to see it incorporated as part of a nurses role when healing their patients.
9:37Yeah, that's really interesting.
9:38I was just talking to someone who lives in Canada and she's a healer.
9:42She's, she's, she does more like physical therapy type stuff, but she's coming on my show soon and I was asking her just in our preliminary call.
9:51What do you think about John Sarno's work?
9:55I don't know if you're familiar, but he wrote the mind body prescription.
9:59And his whole thing is about how, how our repressed emotions always create disease, right?
10:07Not all disease is caused by repressed emotions, but repressed emotions will always create disease, especially on expressed rage.
10:14And he says that he just has to talk about the connection between emotions and illness in his seminars and like half of his audience's pain goes away before he even gets to the exercises to help them.
10:25But I was asking this woman and she was like, her, her response like, blew me away.
10:30She was like, well, you know, I have a lot of issues with like the western medical system and like, and I was thinking in my head, like the western medical system does not incorporate this type of work.
10:43But apparently in Canada it does.
10:45And apparently in Canada, there's a lot of this where they talk a lot about how repressed emotions and emotions are tied to health.
10:52And I was just totally blown away because that's not something that we ever even think about here in the States.
10:58So I wonder if there's other countries where, you know, there's a lot more incorporation between, you know, the more spiritual sciences and Western medicine.
11:08Oh, I'm sure.
11:09for sure, especially the countries that practice Eastern medicine.
11:13you know, right now where we are, we're, I think we're working more towards preventative health care, but we still are a lot of treat the disease versus prevent the disease or getting to the root cause.
11:30So there, there's a lot of work to still be done and to, to be caught up on because I mean, I hate to say it, but even though we're a first world country, our health care doesn't exactly reflect that.
11:43So totally.
11:45So I'm a really big proponent of functional medicine too because they treat the root cause rather than just the symptoms.
11:51There you go.
11:52It seems like western just covers up the symptoms.
11:55But there's so many, so many well intentioned people in that in Western medicine like yourself who are there to help people.
12:03But it's just the system trains doctors and a lot of it's run by the pharmaceutical companies and you're kind of locked into what you can do, which leads me to my next question.
12:12You know, do you ever use your spiritual gifts or your energy healing on your patients there?
12:18And how does that work?
12:19Do you ask permission or do you just kind of do it under the?
12:22Yeah, good question.
12:23So right now, actually, I don't work with patients anymore.
12:26It's been a couple of years because I'm more on the admin side now.
12:29But I did have my second spiritual awakening while I was still working in the clinic with patients.
12:36And for me, I actually wanted to use my energy healing more for all my colleagues over my patients at the time because it was sort of like a, a an introductory step into bringing it into the workplace.
12:53So offering that for the caregivers of those that come in.
12:58But I would certainly it depends on the extent of the, of the healing.
13:05I mean, you know, we like to send well wishes to people all the time.
13:08We may not be asking him.
13:09Is it OK?
13:09If I send you well wishes, right?
13:11We just do it.
13:12But if I want to sit down and actually have like a actual more ritualistic session, then yeah, I would wanna ask for permission.
13:19But if it's like my hope is that I really hope you get better soon.
13:23That to me is just sending a lot of good vibes and energy already.
13:27I don't even know if that answer your question.
13:28But no, totally.
13:29And I, and I love that you said you want to do it on your colleagues more.
13:32I want to hear more about that.
13:34Like, how receptive were you?
13:37Like, you just need this or where did that come from?
13:39Yeah.
13:40So the colleagues that I spoke to about the, the whole thing that I was going through, I would mean spiritual awakening.
13:46Number two was pretty, pretty profound for me.
13:49So there were people that I, that I would share it with and I'll be honest, like even some of the physicians as well, like I would, I would talk to them about what I was going through and people were very receptive to it.
14:01And you know, even offering like sessions for them if they, if they needed it very, very open and, and receptive to it.
14:11And I will say that, you know, when I went back for my Masters in Science Degree for Nursing, I did a lot of my research and papers on energy healing because I wanted to be on something that I was interested in.
14:23And so it was really cool to see how a lot of science also backs up the benefits.
14:29Like we're talking like scientific nursing journals, you know, medical journals as well, backing up the benefits of, of energy healing and also the benefits of just having a rumor of space that maybe has a massage chair or a place where a nurse can go and meditate or do some yoga.
14:51or like some, you know, positive affirmation walls, you know, where they can just kind of get back into headspace because in nursing, you know, that's a lot of give, give, give, give, give and, you know, when we get, when we go home to our families, it's give, give, give, give, give.
15:07And so to have those moments where we can refill our cups even if it's just a quarter of the way.
15:15You know, it's important I think to grasp those moments.
15:19Yeah.
15:19And I love that you brought that up.
15:20I know like during the pandemic, everyone was feeling for all the health care workers and all the nurses who just, you know, selflessly put themselves out there for like back to back shifts.
15:30And it was just, they were, they were the heroes, right?
15:34So I love that.
15:35You said science backs it up.
15:37And on this podcast, we explore the intersection between science and spirituality and I know you read my book.
15:42I love backing things up with science and I don't want to put you on the spot because you probably don't remember all of the things.
15:47But were there any that jumped out that you can remember like little things that science backing up this spirituality and this energy healing?
15:56I mean, obviously, I keep going back to the, the, the, the light spectrum of what we can see.
16:01I love that.
16:03But as far as in my research for my papers and things, just just, you know, vital signs, vital signs before a a session.
16:15and then taking the vital signs afterwards and seeing a marked improvement.
16:19A lot of it too may also be qualitative evidence such as the nurse saying I just feel better.
16:29It could also lead to improved performance as well.
16:32So patients then benefit also.
16:35Yes, it has been some time, but I do remember that you know, the doing the before and the after with the, with the like the the measurable evidence, like the quantifiable evidence along with the qualitative evidence to really prove that there was an improvement, a marked improvement in the physical body of somebody.
16:59Yeah, that's so fascinating.
17:00I, I love that we're getting to the place where science backs up spirituality and mysticism and what all of these ancient cultures have been saying for millennia, you know, it's, it's we're in a really exciting time to be alive this age of information and especially with quantum physics and epigenetics, it just backs up everything and, and it's, it's, it's contributing to this awakening of humanity that's happening, right?
17:25Because some people need that evidence based information in order to believe, right?
17:30Even though most of what we see is not, not visible to our, to our site, you know, some people need that empirical evidence.
17:40OK.
17:41So what made you start your podcast?
17:43You have a guided life.
17:45It's the name of your podcast, right?
17:47I was lucky enough to be on it.
17:49And you know, what, what prompted that?
17:52When did that start in your journey?
17:54Yeah.
17:54So, way back when, in the winter of 2021 I was starting to get that intuitive nudge to either go blog or podcast route.
18:11And I had AAA nice conversation with my brother in law who had his own podcast and he helped me a lot to really help me see my worth in what I have to share because my whole thing was, well, who's gonna wanna listen to me?
18:33You know, what, what, what is it that I have?
18:35That's interesting for, for people.
18:38And, you know, is this something I can sustain?
18:41And so he helped me to really understand what I have to say is, is valuable.
18:48We're sharing and and having people on as well.
18:52So it started off with a very strong intuitive nudge to go one way or the other.
18:56What I love about podcasting is that, but unlike blogging, you can hear the expression in people's voice.
19:08I think that it feels more intimate for the listener to listen in on a conversation or to be the one that the, the host is speaking to.
19:19you can more easily have guests on versus a blog.
19:25So I felt that there was a lot more variety in it for me.
19:28, and a way for me to connect better with others who are also interested in the stuff that I am, whether they come on as guests or they're just listening.
19:39And I mean, I was just grateful to have even one person listen, but I've been so lucky to be in the thousands and in the top 10% globally.
19:48So I'm heading in the right direction.
19:51so that it really the intuitive nudge to, to do something next and more.
19:58And it's just been a fantastic ride.
20:00I've, I mean, I started last March, March of 2022 and, been going weekly ever since and I absolutely love it.
20:09Yeah, that's awesome.
20:10And I think what you said is so important that there's so many people out there who they want to try something, right?
20:17They have a message they want to get across, they have an interest, whether it's posting online or speaking somewhere or starting a podcast and they look out there and they're like, well, wait, there's so many other people doing this, right?
20:27Like who am I?
20:29But if you have a message to share, if you have a story to share, someone's gonna resonate with it, you know, and, and I, so I used to run a yoga teacher training and I would tell my trainees this all the time, like, don't re invent the wheel, like use the same cues for warrior one and someone might have come to 500 yoga classes and heard that same cue.
20:50But then the way you say it is different and it just like resonates with that person just like locks into place.
20:56So, you know, everyone, everyone's voice is unique and everyone has a unique message and someone's gonna resonate with you more than everyone else out there.
21:07So I love good on your brother in law for talking you into it.
21:11We can all thank you.
21:14Yeah.
21:14No, it's so, it's so so important.
21:16Ok.
21:17So you mentioned very briefly kind of waved over this that you have a spirit guy named Jason.
21:23So we need to hear about Jason.
21:25Tell us about Jason.
21:26Oh, Jason would love to be talked about.
21:30So Jason, we met back when I was a teenager, yeah, teenager soon after finding Sylvia Brown books and she talked about how we all have a spirit guide and that was a brand new concept to me because Christianity never talked about that.
21:45Judaism never talked about that.
21:47So I was like, what?
21:49So I couldn't wait to meet mine, but I was like, I do not want him like jumping out of a corner or something that's going to scare the crap out of me.
21:58So I'm like, so I'm gonna follow what Sylvia Brown said and ask for my spirit guide if I have one to meet me in my dreams.
22:06And so I did that and I would say probably a couple weeks later, it was not a very exciting dream, but, you know, I'm in this sort of dark space and there's these geometric shapes on the ground and like almost like these logs and sticks on the ground.
22:24I don't even, I don't even know.
22:25It's just I can see the shapes and I see this man standing there young man, like in his twenties and he's sort of floating above these logs.
22:39And I don't know if anybody who has seen the Indian in the cupboard that came out like in the nineties, he looks like, oh, do you?
22:49It's such a good book anyway.
22:50So in the movie, the little boy, he looks like that.
22:54But as a like a 20 year old man funny.
22:58And so, but I just, when I saw him, I just knew, so glad I knew like my mind knew to ask, are you my spirit guide?
23:06And he said yes.
23:08And then the next question I happened to ask was, what is your name?
23:11And he told me Jason and that was it, that was the end of the dream.
23:16, but so that's how I met him and that's how I knew his name.
23:23And so, you know, I didn't really do anything with that.
23:27It was kind of like, oh, ok.
23:29And then, but I don't even know if I knew what to do with that.
23:32I mean, I'm assuming Sylvia Brown must have said in one of her books, but I don't remember doing much more with that.
23:38And then, you know, life happened all this stuff and then fast forward to 2019.
23:43And I always knew he was there.
23:45I would think about him every once in a while.
23:48But, I, you know, I really, I really think in 2019 he says, all right, it's, it's time, it's time to do and start what, you know, what you came here to do.
23:57And so, that's when the intuitive nudges started coming to start meditating, which I never did before because I was scared again.
24:07That if I meditated, my soul would leave and I would get possessed by something else.
24:12I just had these crazy ideas or meditation wasn't for me because I wasn't a Buddhist monk.
24:18And I, you know, I can't sit lotus position on top of a hill for two hours.
24:21I don't have time for that.
24:23So, meditation just didn't really where, where do you think, like, your thoughts came from?
24:27Was that from, like, religious upbringing, do you think, or?
24:29, maybe, ok, that's a good question.
24:34I never thought about that.
24:36I don't know.
24:37But, yeah, I've, I've heard the second one but I've never heard the first one.
24:40It's like a very specific fear.
24:42Yeah, of being possessed.
24:43But what's funny is that I've brought this up to other guests that I've had on my show and they're like me too.
24:49So, so other people have had the same.
24:51No, maybe it's just me.
24:53Who knows?
24:54So anyway, never happened, never will.
24:59And then not just the, the, the meditation, what it did was it like, it just opened up something where I was able to receive guidance from him and whoever else on my team maybe more, more directly.
25:17not so much like intuitive hunches anymore.
25:19Now it was more like, oh OK, it was just more obvious.
25:23And then I really dived into spirituality and I dived, dived in, I dove into spirituality and I dove into practicing, you know, channel writing and mediumship and all this energy healing.
25:35It all helps me to create a, a stronger communicative relationship with him that I have since continued to strengthen.
25:48So that now I just, I can tell when he's here or when I get a, a hit from him, I know that it's him versus me or, or whatever.
26:00So anyway, Yeah, that's, that's how I met Jason and how Jason still come to be.
26:05I consider him my quote unquote main guide.
26:09I do have other guides.
26:10I met another guide.
26:11The same way that I met him was through a dream with those two very simple questions.
26:16And I'm still trying to figure out what her purpose in my life is for her name is Lana.
26:23But yeah, so that's who Jason is in a nutshell.
26:28Yeah, I love that.
26:28Thanks for sharing and thanks for sharing.
26:30How easy it was for you to connect with him.
26:32Because I'm sure listeners are like, how, how do I meet my spirit guide?
26:36And we all have spirit guides.
26:37We all like you said, you have a team, right?
26:39There are, there are soul beings on the other side of the veil who are here to help us, but they can't interfere.
26:46We have to ask for their help, right?
26:48They can't just tell us to turn right on the street, right?
26:51Like we have to ask for that.
26:53So if you want to connect with them, you know, asked to connect with them in a dream like Laura did I love that so much.
27:01So, so then, OK, so you also learned mediumship.
27:05Was that something you went somewhere to train for or did it develop naturally or how did that come about?
27:10Good question.
27:11So a lot of spiritual awakening number two, which involved learning mediumship happened during COVID.
27:16So it was all virtual.
27:19And I in, I had always had an interest in mediumship.
27:25I always enjoyed watching mediums on TV.
27:30John Edwards, Theresa Caputo, whoever I always enjoyed that.
27:33And I always would cry these, you know, ugly, ugly cries when I would, when I would see them, you know, making these connections for people.
27:41I loved the show.
27:43The Ghost Whisper with Jennifer Love Hewitt.
27:45That show was amazing.
27:46And I cried every episode too, even though it wasn't real, but still it like hit, hit a nerve.
27:51Yeah.
27:52And so I always loved the idea of connecting to spirit, not in a scary way, but in a very loving way.
28:00And I would have dreams.
28:04It would be in my dreams where I would get messages from people who have passed, where I would get visitations from people who have passed, whether they were family members, friends, family of friends.
28:16So I would get visitations and, and so all these events would happen that now in retrospect, I realize were setting me up for my road to mediumship.
28:29So in 2019, when I started to do all the stuff, the channel writing energy healing and everything like that working very closely with Jason, I felt comfortable exploring mediumship because again, I'm a scaredy cat.
28:44I was worried that if I opened that door, then I would start seeing ghosts or like scary things would come in So, so I, I took it really slow and I made sure that Jason was there with me when I would do when I would connect to people who passed.
29:01And what I learned was was that it was very similar to how I already connected with entities on the other side, loving entities on the other side because I already set that intention of it being, you know, of the highest, best good.
29:14And so it became so much less scary when I realized, oh, it's still in my mind's eye.
29:20Like it's so I would, I would actually love to see them with my real eyes.
29:24Now I've come a long way.
29:26But I realize it's still, you know, it's in my mind's eyes.
29:29So it's all good.
29:30So that's how I was able to sort of start that journey of, of mediumship because I wanted to be awake and I wanted to be more in control of when those encounters happen versus, oh, I just had a random dream last night.
29:45So, yeah, totally.
29:47And I think a lot of people can relate to getting visitations and dreams.
29:51I mean, I certainly can relate to that.
29:54I, I get visited by family members who have passed all the time and, you know, I think anyone is probably capable of these gifts, right?
30:01Like humans only use 10% of their brain or something.
30:03It's just a matter of honing it.
30:05Right.
30:05And, and having that intention and probably also letting go of that fear.
30:09I, I just had a spirit medium, Daniel Jackson on my show a few episodes ago and he sees all the scary stuff.
30:16So it's definitely a possibility.
30:18So it's good that it's good that you set that intention and that boundary for yourself.
30:22I think that's really important.
30:23, so what do you do with the medium ship?
30:26Now?
30:26Are you out there helping people?
30:28Are you or is it just kind of for you?
30:31Yeah.
30:31So, I do do readings for people.
30:34I really enjoy it.
30:35I, I like to focus a lot on connecting with people, spirit guides.
30:40But, you know, if family members come through or if somebody wants to hear from a family member, you know, I'm happy to happy to do it.
30:47So, yeah, I do offer readings for people.
30:50That's cool.
30:50So, when you connect people with their spirit guides, what does that look like?
30:53Do you?
30:55Yeah.
30:55Tell me.
30:55OK.
30:56Oh, it's so, it's so good.
30:59It's so good.
31:00So for me when I am I call it, we call it sitting in the power where you sort of getting into that mental space of preparing to connect.
31:10I like to do it before I get on the call with the, with the client or with the sitter.
31:17and you'll do it over Zoom or some sort of virtual setting and usually I can tell when the guides are there and ready to go or whoever else is there ready to go.
31:27Because I, I can picture myself sitting in a chair across from my sitter and to their left, they're holding hands with a,, with a being and they're sort of like their, their head is sort of resting on their hands that they, that are being held together.
31:47And so to me, I'm like, ok, we're connected guides here.
31:53Family members come in, usually wearing white and they are usually off a little bit, they're not holding hands with the client.
32:04And I think it's because for the most part, the client isn't expecting them to be there because usually when they book a reading with me, it's to connect with, with their guide.
32:15So they, they're ready.
32:17Whereas the family members there, but the family members always cannot wait to send a message.
32:23So I always let them go first.
32:24The guides are very generous to let them go first.
32:27because they are like bursting at the seams to, to finally talk to their loved one.
32:34And then once their message is done, then we can address what the guides wanna share.
32:38I, if there are other entities as well, they usually show up on the, on the right side of the client as they're sitting in the chair.
32:44I once had the goddess of astrology standing there and I didn't know that's who it was at first until we started talking more about this being and then I realized it just, like, came into my head.
32:55Oh my gosh, it's the goddess of astrology.
32:57Didn't even know she existed.
32:59But here she is.
33:00Yeah.
33:00And it was really cool because for that, for that session, the clients, all her questions were related to astrology.
33:08So it was so cool.
33:09Like, I didn't know it was so, yeah, totally relevant.
33:12So it was really cool.
33:14So, you know, that's kind of, that's, that's what it looks like.
33:17And then once I've established that we're there and I've created this nice bubble of protection and love and then, then we start the reading and I just word vomit on the person.
33:28All the messages is that the person has been, you know, needing to hear from whoever was on the other side, you know, hoping that we address their questions and if we don't, then we can get to them for sure.
33:39But that's how, that's how we like to do it.
33:41I like to do it.
33:42Yeah, that's really cool.
33:44So it, are you ever, do you ever have like psychic abilities?
33:47Like, could you ever be looking at someone and see spirits around them or see their spirit guides or family or is it always have to be this, this set up ritualistic kind of experience?
33:58No, I can tune in right away and just say like, I want like, I wonder who you know, who would come through for Chris and right away.
34:05I'm like, oh, there's this elderly gentleman, like, to her.
34:08Right.
34:09And he looks like a grandpa to me.
34:11So, like that, who would?
34:13That's what I do.
34:13I just have to sort of flip a switch and tune in and like, sort of like, move my focus to, to that.
34:20I don't know why I'm whipping my head around like that but I know what it feels like.
34:25So, like I, that's how I, I do if I, if I can, you know, instead of focusing on,, I don't know, like I'm reading a book,, and then I wanna see, like, oh, there's the TV s on what's, you know what, I wonder what the person's watching.
34:39Like, it's kind of like turning my focus that way.
34:41So that's how, that's how I do it.
34:43That makes sense.
34:44It's like you're tuning into this other dimension or this other realm in a way.
34:50Yeah.
34:50I like, is there someone standing next to me right now?
34:53Yeah.
34:54So, as soon as I said, oh, like, I wonder who would come in for Chris, that,, elderly gentleman?
34:59He's bald with a, with a mustache.
35:01But maybe that's to show grandpa.
35:03I don't know.
35:04And he's got glasses as well anyway, I see him to your right.
35:08Interesting.
35:08I don't know.
35:09But in my, oh, sorry, you left because it's, it's weird with Zoom.
35:15Yeah.
35:16Well, I'm glad he's here.
35:19Yeah.
35:20He does feel like family members so maybe ask your, ask your family.
35:23Yeah.
35:23Interesting.
35:25Yeah.
35:25, I, I've had another medium on tell me that someone was here and it was like some woman, I think her name is Katherine with curly hair.
35:35And he described this person in like, great detail that I had never heard of before in my life.
35:39And he was like, well, she's your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandmother.
35:44And I'm like, ok, I don't know who that person is.
35:47I think, I believe you, but I have no idea.
35:50Yeah, I can't valid.
35:51That's hard to validate.
35:52Yeah.
35:52This doesn't feel so far removed.
35:54Yeah.
35:55Yeah.
35:55That's cool.
35:56I wonder.
35:58ok, so, you know, just I wanna bring it back around to the, the nursing and the Western medicine because I think that's what's super fascinating also.
36:09Like, is there anything that you can leave people with in terms of any advice, if people are trying to figure out what they want to do with their health care, what they want, like how these things sacked if they're trying to juggle how these things intersect.
36:24especially in the day and age when you know COVID shots are still a thing or just post pandemic.
36:31Like how do people juggle that spiritual healing versus Western medicine?
36:38Yeah.
36:38So I think that it's, it's nice too, not have not have to do one or the other.
36:46I think that encompassing them both together can be really beneficial because Western medicine really addresses the physical body, energy healing, addresses the energetic body.
36:59So being able to address both, I think can really benefit a person and you know, whether or not you believe it because you can't see it.
37:12you know, skepticism is healthy to a point.
37:15but not if it closes you off completely.
37:17But, you know, if it doesn't hurt, having an energy session can be very relaxing.
37:23And so if anything, at least you've gotten some time to relax and let your body sort of slow down and do what it needs to.
37:29And the perk, you know, you get, you get added a energy healing that you may not even realize you need it.
37:36And so anyway, I think that the biggest thing is to, is to again have a healthy skepticism but don't rule it out completely.
37:46And to, to give it a try before you decide that it's that it's not for you.
37:52But at the same time, it wouldn't hurt anything if it, if it wasn't for you.
37:56So I think that it's important to meld the meld the two.
37:59I like that a lot.
38:00And I think in the spiritual community, there's almost this looking down on people who do get Western medicine and I just want to say to listeners, I don't think it makes you any less spiritual.
38:11If you go to a hospital or you go to a Western doctor.
38:15There's, there's this great story from Vishen Lakian who is the founder of Mine Valley where he wanted to fix his eyesight and he was meditating on it and he was meditating on it.
38:25And he was, he was doing, he, he teaches Jose Silva's method.
38:28So he was using like his internal vision and he just wanted it to happen so bad for months and nothing was working.
38:35And then he walked outside his apartment one day and they had just put up this huge billboard for LASIK surgery and he was like, well, that was the sign from the universe.
38:44It was like, here's how you're going to fix your eyesight and I just love that so much because it's like sometimes that is the answer.
38:50I mean, we're still physical bodies.
38:53Yeah.
38:53Absolutely.
38:54Yeah, exactly.
38:55I think, I think that wraps it up.
38:57We're still physical bodies.
38:58We're still having this human experience and if you break your arm, you need to go to the,, but energy healing might, sorry, go ahead.
39:09No, go, go for it.
39:09I was just gonna say energy healing might maybe help hasten the healing process, but you still need someone to go in there and put it back together.
39:17Yeah.
39:17Yeah, totally.
39:18So, yeah, I, I like that.
39:20Have a healthy amount of skepticism but don't let it hold you back and you can do both and it, it doesn't make you any less of a person.
39:28So awesome.
39:31Well, I'm so glad you came on.
39:32Can you tell listeners how they can get in touch with you or if they want to work with you or listen to you?
39:37Where do they go?
39:38Yeah, I have everything on, a linktree.
39:42So it's super easy to find, you know, my website or how to get in touch with me or how to, to book anything or to find the podcast.
39:54So it's just link tree.
39:56So linktree:/GuidedWest.
40:03OK.
40:03And I love that actually because it's the guided life.
40:06But your last name, that's actually really, really good.
40:09Yeah, that's good.
40:09I like what you did there.
40:10I'm gonna put it in the show notes too.
40:12I think you sent it to me if you didn't.
40:13Well, I'll get it after the show.
40:15So if you're driving and listening to this or not in a place where you can write it down, It'll be in the show notes and thank you so much for coming on, Laura.
40:23I loved our conversation and I was on your show and I love talking to you then and I just wanted to continue it.
40:28So thanks for coming on for everyone else.
40:31Please listen, subscribe, share this episode, help spread the good vibes.
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40:41The links are in the show notes as well and have a beautiful rest of your day.