0:00 Welcome back to the Change Your Mind podcast.
0:02 I'm your host, Kris Ashley.
0:03 We explore the intersection between personal development, spirituality and science.
0:08 And I have the perfect guest who can help me combine all of those things.
0:12 Today, I've been really excited for this particular interview.
0:16 Hi, I'm Kris.
0:18 When I was younger I went through trauma that caused me to feel broken and lost.
0:22 But my life changed after I had a spiritual awakening.
0:26 Since then, I've dedicated my life to studying and learning from masters all around the world that have helped me to create a life of fulfillment and abundance beyond my wildest dreams.
0:35 Now, I'm dedicated to sharing everything I've learned so that you don't have to suffer for decades.
0:40 Like I did, I've seen people's lives completely transform and I share it all right here.
0:48 So today I have with me Bindu and Bindu is a stress management expert, a heart math coach.
0:55 She has her phd in metaphysics, which I think is the coolest thing ever.
0:59 She's getting her phd in metaphysics.
1:01 She's also the founder of the Conscious Leadership Academy and she does conscious parenting.
1:06 So we have a lot to talk about.
1:08 Welcome.
1:08 Bindu.
1:08 I'm really happy.
1:09 You're here.
1:10 Thank you, Kris.
1:11 It's a great pleasure to have me here.
1:13 Wonderful.
1:14 Yeah, like I said, there's so much I'm excited to ask you about, but it's always good to start with someone's origin story.
1:21 So I know you had a spiritual awakening four years ago.
1:23 Can you tell us a little bit about what that was like?
1:26 What was your, what, what was the catalyst to it?
1:29 OK.
1:30 So I think I, I'm a qualified accountant, so I'm very logical minded and I'm very nerdy and I've been in the corporate world for more than 20 years.
1:40 So I've kept moving from one field to another, from accounting into it.
1:45 So I thought, you know, getting a qualification in accounting was one of the biggest achievement in my life.
1:51 When I got that achievement, I felt OK, that was momentary, but then there was still a void.
1:56 Then I thought, OK, I should be doing something more.
1:59 Then I moved on into it and when I moved into it, then again, yeah, my professionally, I'm growing, but there's still some void in the quest of real happiness.
2:10 I, I was trying to look for many things and that's when I found meditation and through meditation, I discovered the true purpose of my life.
2:18 And this is the awakening I had, I think one thing in the corporate world is we are in a rat race all the time we don't really think about other people.
2:27 Whereas when you come into meditation, there's a 360 transformation that happens to you because you're connecting with your own soul.
2:34 So in every aspect of life, there is a transformation and this is when I understood the oneness in the universe.
2:41 So this is when I decided to delve more into personal development, spirituality, spiritual sciences and metaphysics and local sciences.
2:50 And yeah, that's awakening.
2:52 I had, it's so true, you know, with the rat race, it, we are here on this planet for such a bigger reason than work money, sleep entertainment, you know, repeat the cycle, eat.
3:07 So did you end up leaving the corporate world to pursue all of this or are you still kind of dabbling in corporate while I was in the corporate?
3:14 I was dabbling into all these things.
3:16 And it's only last year I took that big step in my life to leave my corporate world.
3:22 So it's exactly.
3:23 Thank you.
3:24 It's exactly a year now, more or less that I left my corporate world and I'm doing completely something I'm really, really passionate about.
3:32 I think my mission is to touch as many hearts as I can in this world where I can transform them.
3:38 I love that.
3:39 And I think it's so inspirational for people to hear because so many people have a dream that they want to follow or this, this thing that feels like a calling, a purpose, but they're so fearful to take that leap.
3:52 So I think you're just living proof that on the other side of that is like Terrence mckenna says, you know, is a feather bed, right?
3:59 You just hurl yourself into the abyss and there's a feather bed.
4:02 So that's really wonderful.
4:04 So it sounds like you, you just went down all these different rabbit holes, right?
4:08 Which I can totally relate to like what, what pulled your attention first?
4:12 Where did you, where did you end up landing to?
4:16 So I think one of the first thing that really pulled me into the spiritual sciences was the secret.
4:22 I think my sister was talking about the secret and then I was wondering what is the secret?
4:27 Then I started reading these books about personal development.
4:31 I read the book secret and that's when I understood what is energy, what is vibration, what is the frequency?
4:38 And this is when I started reading more and more books and I got to understand what is quantum physics, what is neuroscience?
4:47 And this is how my journey began.
4:50 I love that so much and I love the secret because it brought law of attraction to the masses.
4:55 You know, there's, there's some things that's missing, right?
4:57 There's some more steps to take in there, but it made it, it made it common household language and that's pretty amazing.
5:05 Like I keep saying we're, it feels like we're in the most exciting time to be alive because there's this awakening happening, right?
5:11 People are becoming more and more conscious and that's just, that's just so exciting.
5:16 And I love that you called out, you know, neuroscience and quantum physics and epigenetics is another one like science is backing up what spirituality says and what mysticism says, it's really exciting.
5:29 Absolutely.
5:29 I think doctor Jo dispenser says science is a new form of mysticism.
5:33 So wherever there is evidence, that is what we call science.
5:36 But yes, science is catching up there.
5:39 I would say it's amazing.
5:41 Yeah.
5:41 Yeah.
5:42 It's just, it's incredible.
5:44 So, ok, so I know that we've been dropping these names like Joe Dispenser and I, I was so excited to find out that you've worked closely with Greg Braden and Bruce Lifton and Joe Dispenser.
5:56 And if listeners don't know who these three men are, go read their work, go follow their work.
6:02 They have been so influential on myself and so many people around the globe.
6:06 How did you start working with them?
6:09 So, basically with Doctor Bruce Lipton, I would say, I mean, Doctor Jodi Spins and Greg Braden, I've done their you know, the courses and I've read the books that they wrote.
6:18 But I think I work very closely with Doctor Bruce Lipton because I'm part of his community and I take case studies to him asking him about because I'm also very much into conscious parenting.
6:29 So if there's a child suffering from any kind of illnesses where the medicine is really expensive.
6:36 Then how do we really help this child?
6:38 So I really take some case studies to him.
6:40 He's all about no medicines, only energy, right.
6:44 He's just against medicines.
6:46 So this is how I have a very close connection with Doctor Bruce Lipton.
6:50 And I'm so excited that, you know, I get all this firsthand information directly from him.
6:55 If there's anything I really need to ask him.
6:58 He's such a good guy.
6:59 I got to meet him last year.
7:00 And the fact that he, he's so busy and the fact that he sets aside a time to help with these case studies with Children who are suffering, just, it's such a testament to his character.
7:13 Like that's, that's actually really, really special.
7:16 Absolutely.
7:17 Absolutely.
7:17 He's such a wonderful person, very humble.
7:20 He comes to each and everyone and says, thank you for coming to this conference.
7:25 I mean, you know, you could be doing something different on a weekend but you chose to be here.
7:29 So, you know, it's, it's amazing.
7:32 It's amazing.
7:33 Yeah.
7:34 So, so how do you come across these case studies?
7:37 And, and I know you said you're the conscious parenting, tell us more about that.
7:41 So the case studies, I mean, I do hear like some of the friends, friends suffering from, you know, the Children suffering from any kind of illnesses and it's only through conversation and to be really honest with you not everybody to understand what is conscious parenting until, unless they are somebody who is into spirituality and who is into personal development, they would not really understand what is conscious parenting.
8:04 Because if they're not living consciously, how would they understand what is conscious parenting?
8:09 Right.
8:09 So it is a very,,, I think it's a very gray area for them.
8:14 Even if I do talk about conscious parenting, they wouldn't really understand because I'm actually inner child therapist.
8:20 And I do understand where this the trauma or the inner child wounds are coming.
8:26 And, you know, as a parent, we are actually passing them down to generations.
8:31 So conscious parenting is one of the most important.
8:34 And Doctor Bruce Lipton says this is because I do a lot of work on this and he says I'm doing a great job and he says my work is really needed for the world because we're actually bringing the future generation, you know, changing meaning, changing the future generation.
8:50 So conscious parenting is all about being the parent, being very mindful about what they're doing and how are they talking to their child, how much time they're giving to the child and how consciously are they speaking?
9:02 Are they speaking from the heart or are they speaking from the in mind?
9:06 So these are the things that actually conscious parenting consist of.
9:10 And it is really, really life transforming because conscious parenting not only develop a positive emotional development with a child, but also strong parent, child connection, improved behavior and communication encourages a lifelong learning, reduced parent or reduced power struggles.
9:31 I would say, because, you know, most of the parent and the child really try to struggle to address the behavioral issue issues.
9:39 So by understanding and addressing the root of the behavioral issues, conscious parenting can help them to reduce the power struggle between the parent and the child.
9:49 And this creates a more harmonious and cooperated family environment.
9:53 And this is what is needed for the world.
9:55 Nowadays, you see everyone living their own life, you know, everyone has their own gadget and they don't tend to talk to each other.
10:03 And even when the child is having his food is with his phone in his hand.
10:07 So this is not being mindful, right?
10:10 We as parents, when we are conscious, we are going to showcase our ourselves as a role, role model for the child so that the child can actually implement what the parent is doing.
10:22 This is how important the conscious parenting is.
10:25 It is, you know, it brings self-awareness, empathy, mindfulness and setting boundaries with love and encouraging independence as well.
10:35 So yeah, I mean, I think I agree with Bruce.
10:38 It's it's such important work that you're doing, especially when you think about how many people, I mean, I I meet so many people who have childhood trauma, right?
10:47 And, and yeah, it's, it's a big thing.
10:51 Ok.
10:51 So I don't know if I told you this in our preca but I'm pregnant right now with my first child.
10:56 So what?
10:58 Thank you.
10:59 What advice do you have for me or any parents?
11:01 Listening?
11:02 Just I know you mentioned the cell phones.
11:05 Is there any other little piece of advice that can just make us more conscious?
11:09 Because even the most conscious people can slip into unconsciousness sometimes.
11:14 Right.
11:14 Absolutely.
11:16 Absolutely.
11:17 I think for pregnant women, I think in the conference, Dr Bruce Lipton did show us one of the video where the mother is pregnant and she's carrying the baby and the fetus in the womb is very happy.
11:30 And then there is a mother is singing a song and we can see the feet is really happily moving and then there's the father comes in and there was an argument between the wife and the husband.
11:42 And then when the mother gets that chronic stress, the baby, the fetus in the womb just, you know, jumps and that creates trauma inside the womb.
11:54 So it's not only after the conscious parenting does not actually start from the time the child is born, but the conscious parenting actually starts from the time the child is in mother's womb.
12:06 So as a mother, it's very important for her to be very emotionally regulated.
12:11 Always being the state of joy, happiness, you know, gratitude.
12:15 One of those high frequency vibrations, no pressure.
12:20 No pressure.
12:23 Yeah.
12:23 People keep saying to me the baby feels what you feel and it's like, oh my gosh, like, but I was stressed out the other day or I got angry at this thing and it's a lot of pressure but I guess that's parenting, right?
12:37 It's just the start of it.
12:39 , and you said you're an inner child therapist, do you, do you work with people to help heal their inner child wound?
12:46 Is that what that looks like?
12:47 Absolutely.
12:49 Yeah, whatever we are today is because of our inner child, because the parents or the society we have been brought up with, you know, it is actually 95% in the world are discussed.
13:00 Families.
13:01 It's purely because of the kind of parenting we had.
13:03 It's just not only parenting, it's the families, the environment, teachers, everything constitute to our behavior.
13:11 So subconscious mind is open from 0 to 7 years and whatever is happening around us becomes our behaviors and the behavior of belief systems.
13:21 So there's many people who live in fear, many people have anxiety, many people have depression.
13:27 And that's not purely is what is happening right now in the environment, it comes from the inner child.
13:34 So if somebody has been brought up in a very toxic environment or a very stressful environment, then that child obviously have those belief systems and the subconscious.
13:44 So that gives the triggers, you know, they probably must be going to work and there is something that's happening at work that triggers them.
13:53 But in fact, it's stress is not actually external always.
13:57 It could be internal.
13:59 The root cause of internal stress is the, is those inner child issues that we're holding on to that emotional trauma that we've been carrying in the subconscious mind.
14:09 Yeah.
14:10 And just, just to kind of amplify what you said when Children are under six or seven, they're in theta brainwave state, right?
14:20 So which is hypnosis?
14:22 They're, they're literally programmable, they're downloading information.
14:26 So when they say kids are a sponge, they're literally a sponge, right?
14:30 So and and it reminds me of generational trauma too, right?
14:33 So much of those inner child wounds, like you said, it's the people who we grow up around and you know, our, our parents who might not be conscious might be putting all of their stuff onto us.
14:44 So it's not necessarily your fault, but your healing is your responsibility, right?
14:49 It's your responsibility to redo that programming.
14:52 I'm also a family constellation therapist.
14:55 That means, you know, we look at the transgenerational diseases or you know, those wounds that they're carrying, say, for example, if somebody has been brought up in an environment that was war and then they have to leave that country and go to another country.
15:12 So when they leave that country, there was a, there's a deep rooted belonging to that land.
15:17 So, but because of the circumstances, they actually move away from that land.
15:23 But you know, that trauma that carrying in them goes into their, you know, cellular level, right to the cells and those imprints is what has been transferred from generations to generations.
15:37 And this is what it is.
15:39 So we got to go back generations to also heal some of the traumas.
15:44 Yeah.
15:45 Yeah, I mean, it, it just goes so, so deep.
15:48 So you were talking, you said that you also explore genetic illnesses, right?
15:53 Do you, do you believe that there are genetic illnesses?
15:57 Because I, I don't know, I think about like Bruce Lipton's work is all about like the, the genes don't create the disease, the environment does or is that what it is that what a generational illness is just that same toxic environment?
16:10 So, basically, yeah, possibly.
16:12 I mean, it's a belief system, right?
16:14 So, Doctor Bruce talks about, you know, epigenetics where he says diseases are not caused because of the genes.
16:20 So very common.
16:22 diseases are like, you know, diabetes or blood pressure if you, if your father or the mother has it, it just gets, you know, inherited to the daughter or the son.
16:33 But then he says that it's not purely because of the genes, it could be because of the involvement.
16:37 So I personally believe it's the belief system what you have because, you know, many people talk about, oh, my mom has diabetes.
16:44 I'm sure I'm going to get it, right?
16:46 So this is what it is, is actually causing it's your consciousness that creates your reality.
16:52 So if you ask me, what is consciousness?
16:54 Consciousness is nothing but your thoughts, feelings, emotions, conscious and subconscious belief systems are together called consciousness.
17:03 This is what is creating a reality.
17:06 I love that.
17:06 You said that.
17:07 And that's exactly where I was hoping you would go.
17:09 I talked about that a little bit in my book too because think about it, if, if your mother, maybe your mother had some stress or had a toxic environment or whatever, and it triggered this disease and then you get to that same age and you have this like little inkling and you're like, oh, that's how old mom was when she got this and you talk yourself into it, right?
17:29 It's the nocebo effect, right?
17:31 You can talk yourself into anything, including being sick.
17:37 Absolutely.
17:37 It's a belief.
17:39 It's, again, it's caused because of the belief systems.
17:41 Yeah.
17:43 The BS, right.
17:44 Yeah.
17:45 It's fascinating.
17:47 Yeah, it's, it's so fascinating.
17:49 It's so, so fascinating.
17:51 So, OK, I, I wanna jump over to heart math because you are a licensed heart math coach and I, I love what heart math is doing.
17:59 It's so fascinating.
18:00 Again, it's, it's science backing up all of this.
18:03 So for listeners and I haven't had anyone from Heart Math on my show yet.
18:06 So for listeners who have no idea what I'm talking about.
18:09 Can you give an explanation of what heart math is what they do.
18:14 Sure.
18:15 So heart math is a research organization who's been doing research for more than 25 years on the power of heart.
18:22 Our heart has infinite wisdom within.
18:25 So what heart math have discovered is there is actually a brain in our heart.
18:30 There's not only brain in the mind but also in our heart.
18:34 So the brain, the heart and brain are actually in constant communication, whatever is happening outside of us.
18:41 Sometimes we feel that hunch, right?
18:44 Somebody is going to call us.
18:45 And within a few minutes you get a call from that person.
18:49 So who is giving this information?
18:50 This is the brain in your heart that is actually telling you.
18:54 But we tend to ignore this message is that the heart is always trying to communicate to you.
18:59 So this is what heart math has come up with.
19:02 And what they've discovered is whatever diseases that we're having.
19:05 Now, more and more often we see people dying out of heart attack purely because of stress.
19:12 And the reason why people are dying out of cardio vascular disease or heart attacks is purely because heart is the organ in the body that responds to the external environment first and then the brain and then the body.
19:26 So what when stress attacks our body, the first organ that that gets impacted is actually the heart.
19:33 And that's the reason people dying of heart attacks.
19:36 So now So heart math has then gone further with the research and there.
19:40 OK, how do we regulate stress and anxiety in the moment?
19:44 So they've come up with some beautiful techniques which you can use any time anywhere.
19:50 So it is something that you can use in the moment because small stress and big stress.
19:55 So body doesn't differentiate between small stress or a big stress.
19:59 Whenever stress attacks a body, the damage is done.
20:03 So heart matter has come up with these techniques where you can regulate your emotions, you can regulate your stress using the power of heart.
20:12 So this is a fascinating research and there's many research papers is peer reviewed and very scientifically backed up.
20:22 Yeah, absolutely.
20:24 Thank you for that explanation.
20:26 So it also has to do with heart coherence, right?
20:29 And putting your heart and brain in coherence with each other.
20:31 So can you can you teach listeners a little bit about that as well?
20:35 Yes.
20:36 So basically what happens is when stress attacks our body, our body is becomes incoherent.
20:42 That means our body, mind or emotions are completely not in sync because you're in the state of survival, right?
20:50 But when the heart coherence basically is you're bringing the heart and the brain into coherence, that means you're even along with your emotions.
20:59 So that means your body is in coherence.
21:01 So your heart is beating very beautifully.
21:04 So when there is incoherence, the heartbeat goes up and down like this whereas coherence, the heartbeat is very nice and rhythmic.
21:12 So this is how we differentiate between coherence and incoherence.
21:17 Incoherence is basically caused because of frustration, anger, greed, possibly all those negative emotions.
21:25 Whereas occurrence is caused when your heart you elevate your heart and use emotions like joy, happiness, gratitude, one of the easy one to use.
21:36 And I love again that science backs all this up where they actually can see it on the scans, right?
21:41 When you're saying like your heart beats like this, they're literally seeing it on the scans and same with same with brainwaves, right?
21:47 And you can actually sync those up.
21:50 Yes, absolutely.
21:52 It's beautiful.
21:53 Backed up.
21:54 Go ahead.
21:55 Yeah, it's beautifully packed up.
21:57 Whatever the woo we talking about science has now come up with an evidence.
22:02 So, you know, yeah, it's amazing.
22:05 And you know, the reason you want your heart and brain are inco incoherent to be in coherence is because when they're not, when there's that chaos that disorder, it sends that disorderly signal down your central nervous system and then that sends that disorderly signal to all of your systems, your immune system, your cardiovascular system, and you can quite literally make yourself sick.
22:27 Right?
22:27 Absolutely.
22:29 Any kind of stress leads to incoherence, that means you are, you become a going to survival and that it takes a toll on your body and it not only takes a toll on your own own body, but you know, energetically, we are actually transmitting that signal to people around us.
22:47 So it's fascinating how they've done this research, you know, just not only on your body but how can you being in the state of coherence?
22:56 How can you change the field of energy around you?
22:59 Is fascinating.
23:01 I, I remember hearing something and, and I'm, you're gonna have to tell me the right numbers, but it's like they've measured it and your heart actually has an energy field like 8 ft out.
23:09 And then I think it was, I think it was Greg brain was like, and by the way, that's as far as the machines will measure.
23:14 So we don't know how far it really goes.
23:16 Absolutely.
23:17 Absolutely.
23:18 Absolutely.
23:19 The heart has much more electromagnetic field that extends around 8 ft.
23:25 So it's more powerful than the brain.
23:28 Brain sends a signal out.
23:30 Heart draws the event into our life.
23:32 So, manifestation can only happen through our heart.
23:35 And then you think about all of these people meditating in the same room or focusing on those high frequency emotions and your heart fields are overlapping, right?
23:45 And it, it amplifies each other, doesn't it?
23:48 Absolutely.
23:49 That is called coherence healing.
23:51 It's just phenomenal how people get healed, being in the field of energy.
23:56 So even if they're not doing it themselves, just by being around it, they can be healed.
24:00 Yes, I've literally witnessed it in last conference with Lynne mctaggart when we were doing this coherence healing and how people's pain disappeared just like that.
24:11 So it's just phenomenal.
24:13 That's amazing.
24:15 So, as a heart math coach, how do you help work with people?
24:20 Yeah.
24:21 So I work with people in small groups, one on one.
24:24 And also I can also go and coach, I can do corporate training as long as it's a small group.
24:31 So this is how I do it.
24:33 And my clients, whoever had this Heart Math program, they actually seen wonderful results in their life.
24:39 They say it is a game changer and it's one of the best investment they have made on themselves.
24:44 Because the communication we use heart math encourages all these techniques are based on using emotions, right?
24:51 We use the emotions of joy, happiness, gratitude.
24:54 So whenever you are that we try to make them as a second nature.
24:58 So when you're doing that, you're always in incoherence most of the time.
25:03 And when you're talking to a child again, you use a technique from heart math and you talk to your child when you're talking to a child in that coherent being coherent, the tone of the a communication changes, you know, it softens.
25:19 So then when you're talking to a child in a softened way, that is a huge impact, right?
25:25 There is a difference between shouting and screaming versus talking to them softly, gently and lovingly.
25:33 Yeah.
25:34 And it makes me think we should be talking to everyone.
25:36 No.
25:38 Absolutely.
25:39 Absolutely.
25:40 That is what it is.
25:41 So we want to use his tni day and out and you know, we can not only change our own body, but also we can change the environment around us.
25:50 It creates a ripple effect.
25:52 Yeah, it's like you, if you heal your inner being, you become this beacon, this light for others, right?
25:58 People want to rise up to meet you and then you get to offer that helping hand.
26:02 I feel like so many people are out there trying to fight for change, but you can't really fight for things like peace or or love or change, right?
26:11 It all comes from within.
26:13 Yeah.
26:13 So I would say your external world is nothing but a reflection of your inner world.
26:19 Whatever is happening within you is reflected outside and you are drawing events into a life of what is happening within you.
26:28 So if you want to change something outside of you, there's nothing outside of you.
26:32 You go have to go within, start changing yourself.
26:36 First, start looking at your thoughts, your feelings, your emotions, your self talk.
26:42 And this is when if you start looking at and your belief systems, what is the belief you're holding about anything?
26:49 So once we start changing our consciousness and we raise our consciousness, things outside of us will fall into place automatically.
26:58 It's it's pretty amazing and we are powerful beings.
27:02 And you know, so many people tend to get really defensive when they hear that in my experience especially when we post online about it, right about how you create your own reality because there's a, there's a sense of accountability there, right?
27:17 There's a sense of taking responsibility like you have the results in your life because of your own inner being, right?
27:23 Because of your emotions, your belief system, your habits, your thoughts.
27:27 So how can we empower people instead of trigger that defensiveness by explaining all that?
27:35 So I would say first and easiest way to do is start with meditation once do going to meditation.
27:43 And you know, it's not easy for anybody with, you know, being in a high beta, a brainwave state to meditate.
27:49 But if can, if they can start meditating and meditating is nothing but doing nothing just being an observer looking at yourself and you get all kind of thoughts and feelings and you know, so then you can watch yourself and see what kind of person you are really and what is that you're thinking most of the time.
28:08 So this is when if you be introspect your own life, then you can note that, you know, you really have to change a lot.
28:16 So it all starts from the feelings you have.
28:19 What is that you, you know, feeling about yourself and what is that you're feeling about other people?
28:25 Are you holding on to any grudges or anger or resentment?
28:30 So it is time to let go.
28:31 It is all in the work.
28:32 It's all in her work.
28:35 Yeah.
28:36 There's, there's this great idea that I, I learned from David Hawkins where, you know, if there's some, and he applies it to guilt but you can apply it to anything.
28:47 Like if there's some amount of time where you feel like you've held on to something long enough where you've punished yourself, you've punished the other person.
28:54 Like, why can't that time be right now, right?
28:57 Why can't you just let it go right now?
29:00 Like what?
29:01 Yeah.
29:02 So when you are letting, so if you were to forgive somebody, you're really setting two people free, just not only them, but you're setting yourself free.
29:11 You're releasing such a big burden in the subconscious mind that you're carrying about this person.
29:17 We don't know, but the subconscious mind bears all this weight.
29:21 So it is so important for us to let go of that.
29:24 So we sometimes feel I don't have any anger or guilt or shame.
29:28 But when you go within, there is so much we are carrying.
29:32 Yeah.
29:33 And, and when you hold on to these repressed emotions or these grudges or these resentments, it's gonna, it's gonna seep into your manifesting, right?
29:42 It's gonna color the lens through which you view the world, it's gonna shade all of your interactions, right?
29:49 Because it's part of your unconscious programming.
29:51 Absolutely.
29:52 And according to you know, the subconscious mind, obviously having all these negative feelings, emotions it needs some sort of a venting out system and the venting out system is nothing but diseases.
30:05 You attract diseases.
30:07 So this is something to be very mindful of.
30:10 Yeah.
30:11 Do you think that all repressed emotions cause disease?
30:14 Do you think that's like their final, their final stop if you don't do anything to let them go and release them?
30:20 Yeah, I would not say all of them.
30:23 I don't have any evidence to say that.
30:25 But definitely, I've heard that these depressed emotions are definitely going to cause diseases, for example, because being a natural therapist, I know that especially from the Asian culture, women are more you know, than a little suppressed in terms of, you know, the school age, you know, they kind of hold on to their emotions.
30:48 So these emotions as they grow up and they become adult, they actually have a lot of gyne problems to do with the Yeah.
30:59 art you know, anything to do with the ovaries or the gyne side of female issues basically.
31:06 Yeah, that's interesting.
31:07 So it's like that's where they're holding it inside it.
31:10 Yes, exactly.
31:11 That's where they're holding it, the motions.
31:13 So it is very important that we let go of all these because we are trying to, you know, people pleasing, right?
31:20 We're trying to please somebody and we're not ourselves.
31:23 And then we kind of, you know, have this, we're carrying this burden subconsciously and this is what happens.
31:31 Yeah.
31:32 Absolutely.
31:32 And I think I, I love that you brought it back to meditation because it's, it's not only noticing what you're noticing, like, noticing your thoughts and emotions, but like where you're feeling it in your body, right?
31:42 Because chances are you're feeling that tension long before there's disease that develops there.
31:48 So it's really becoming more intuitive with it.
31:50 Right.
31:51 Absolutely.
31:52 Absolutely.
31:53 And I've heard Caroline Miss, she's a, she's a metaphysical teacher and she said, you know, most of the diseases that are caused is purely of the parenting.
32:04 So that's something fascinating.
32:07 So, yes, as parents, I think the kind of the kind of language that we speak to the child and the kind of emotions that we use really plays a huge role, not only, you know, in their well being, but all the overall growth as well.
32:24 Yeah, again, so much pressure and responsibility, but also such a beautiful opportunity to raise someone who's conscious and healthy and can help make the world a better place.
32:36 Absolutely.
32:37 Absolutely.
32:38 It's like your, your biggest contribution to the world really in a way, right?
32:42 The way you parent your child?
32:44 Absolutely.
32:46 So, OK, so you are getting your phd in metaphysics.
32:50 I was telling you before the show, if I would have known that was a thing, I would have done that because I think that is so damn cool.
32:56 How did you find that where Are you doing it?
32:59 What are you learning?
33:00 Tell me all about it because I'm, I'm so fascinated.
33:03 I actually was looking for something and I found something for.
33:08 I was looking with metaphysics and then I found a university in Metaphysics.
33:12 I'm doing my, a phd from the University of Sedona in USA.
33:18 So, yes.
33:20 And so metaphysics is all about the nature of your reality, your connection with your body, mind, soul and the universe.
33:28 And this is something that really fascinated me.
33:32 And I'm thoroughly enjoying what I'm doing right now.
33:34 The knowledge it's all about raising in the high consciousness.
33:40 That's so cool.
33:41 So, what are, what are some of your classes?
33:43 And it's all online?
33:44 I'm assuming because you live in the UK, right?
33:47 I live in the UK.
33:48 Yes.
33:48 Have you been to Sedona?
33:50 I've never been there.
33:51 I'm waiting for the opportunity to go and get my degree.
33:54 It's so magical.
33:56 There's so many natural vortices and the energy there is amazing.
34:01 The whole town is spiritual.
34:02 I swear.
34:03 Yeah.
34:03 That's what I heard.
34:04 I mean, I bumped into somebody accidentally and they said, this is what I'm doing.
34:09 And, and he said, do you know the last lot of healers from Sedona?
34:13 I said, OK, when I looked at the pictures, it did look like very mystical land.
34:18 Yeah.
34:18 Yeah.
34:18 Yeah.
34:19 It does.
34:19 It totally does.
34:21 It I had my spiritual awakening from reading a book back in 2002 by a man named Juon Vlo Melchizedek and he's from Sedona.
34:32 So I've got to go be with him in a workshop there when I was like 20 it was amazing.
34:38 So amazing.
34:39 Yeah.
34:41 OK.
34:41 So what are some of the classes that you're taking to get your phd in metaphysics?
34:45 Like, just give me a couple because I just, I'm still fascinated by it.
34:50 So how do we, how do we manage the challenges that we get in day to day life?
34:55 And you know, it's all about prosperity.
34:58 You know, it's everything is to do with going within, right?
35:02 Reprogramming a subconscious mind and there's some spiritual treatments that we can do on our own self.
35:08 So these are some of the topics that I'm currently learning, which is really fascinating.
35:13 Yeah, that's really cool.
35:15 Is there any like one specific healing modality that you've learned there?
35:19 That's really made an impact on you?
35:21 I think the healing modality they would use is mostly light healing with light, using a white light around you to protect yourself is one great thing which I normally do because we need protection, right?
35:34 So I think having a visualizing that is a white protective light around you, makes you feel more calm, makes you feel more secure, makes you feel protected.
35:44 So yes, whatever challenge comes, I think you can respond in a different way.
35:51 I love that.
35:51 And that's something that listeners can just do on their own too, you know, to do that.
35:56 Yeah, absolutely.
35:58 So, OK, so you also own the Conscious Leadership Academy.
36:03 You do so much.
36:04 I love it.
36:06 You know, what, what is that?
36:07 What is the work you do there?
36:08 And, and I guess final question, do you, is there a place where you're combining all this work?
36:14 Right?
36:14 The, the heart math, the inner child, everything you're learning from your phd like, is that what this is or is this something different?
36:22 So basically the intention of set up this company called Conscious Leadership academies.
36:27 Purely because I wanted to work with leaders.
36:30 I come from a finance background and I want to work with CFO S in finance or executive in finance because I know they're very stressed.
36:39 So the front end is basically promoting the Heart Math program where I want them to become conscious leaders or another servant, leadership style leaders.
36:49 So I want to help them break free from stress, anxiety and burnout and then also make them become those leaders who are not only thinking about themselves, but thinking about the team as well.
37:02 So it is going to cause a ripple effect in the organization.
37:06 So vision of my organization is to empower leaders to elevate humanity.
37:12 I think that's such important work, such important work because like you said, these people, well, first of all, they're under a lot of stress.
37:19 But second of all, their stress is impacting everyone around them.
37:23 Right.
37:23 Everyone.
37:24 And, and it just gets, like, trickle down in the corporate world.
37:27 So, and it's, it's, I used to work in corporate too.
37:29 It's stressful.
37:30 , I, and I remember there was a time where I was getting migraines every day and panic attacks and my husband got ulcers and, and it's all from just the stress of working in this environment.
37:43 Like, absolutely.
37:44 It's all because of stress.
37:46 There's nothing more to it.
37:47 It's just stress.
37:49 Yeah, human beings are not meant to sit in front of a computer screen for 8, 10 hours a day and just with fluorescent lighting and just deadlines and like you said, it drives you into a high beta state.
38:02 You're just on all the time.
38:04 Absolutely.
38:05 Absolutely.
38:06 There's no calm, there's no time for you to take breaks and, you know, all they talk about well being, but at the end of the day, you've got to get your work done.
38:16 Right.
38:16 So, yeah, so it is, it, it, it is a very difficult world.
38:22 So this is the reason and the purpose of set up my company.
38:26 So I like to help them with stress, anxiety burnout.
38:29 And also once they kind of become that conscious, then, you know, further on, I love to help them with any kind of healing or, you know, because, you know, once they believe that, yes, this is, this is what it is then, yeah, I use some other techniques that's smart to start with heart math because it's so scientifically bad.
38:51 Exactly.
38:52 Because most of the,, Corporates they are scientific or, you know, the logic minded.
38:58 So, if I talk about woo, woo, they would not even,, like it or they might not even,, you know, agree to it.
39:06 Yeah.
39:06 That's why I wanted to start with hot map.
39:08 Yeah.
39:09 It also, I, I think can also just divide people, right?
39:13 But if based on their own beliefs or religious backgrounds or whatever, but if you come at them with science, then everyone's a little more open to it and then everything else.
39:24 And like you said, that's really great that you're doing that.
39:27 You're doing such, such important work in so many different realms.
39:31 Thank you.
39:32 Thank you.
39:33 So, another thing you told me to do is you work with a gentleman named David Hamilton and you said he's the Five side effects of Kindness author.
39:41 And I've actually never heard of him before.
39:43 So I'd love to just hear a little bit about what you do with him and what kind of work that is.
39:48 So, basically, I'm part of his inner circle, his personal development group.
39:52 So we do have calls with him once a month or once in three weeks.
39:56 So I'm going to see him tomorrow.
39:58 He wrote a book called Five Side Effects of Cancer.
40:01 Kindness.
40:02 And how does kindness help you to heal your body.
40:06 So even they have discovered that, you know, through, because he's actually a research scientist from the pharmaceutical industry who was doing research on the drugs for the heart.
40:17 But then he discovered that these drugs might not even help.
40:22 So he came out of it and then he started writing books and one of the book is the far side effects of kindness.
40:29 So, you know, being kind, you kind of, you know, even the arteries in your heart would even expand because you're kind.
40:37 So these are some of the beautiful things that he talks about.
40:41 Yeah, that's really amazing because you, you never think about kindness is affecting you.
40:47 You think about it.
40:48 You know, you're kind to help others, but that's amazing that as you're helping others or, or just brightening someone's day a little bit or making their life a little bit easier, you're actually helping yourself too, helping your own well being.
41:01 Yeah.
41:02 Absolutely.
41:03 That's really fascinating.
41:04 Yes.
41:05 Wow.
41:07 Wow.
41:07 I'm learning so much from you today.
41:10 So, you know, I'm, I'm wondering if there's anything you can leave listeners with today?
41:17 Like is there any kind of little heart math meditation or something that can just take a few moments that you might be able to just lead people through?
41:24 Yeah.
41:25 Absolutely.
41:25 No thought or anything.
41:26 No, not at all.
41:28 I think hard focus breathing.
41:30 So one quick technique that I like to share is hard focus breathing at any point in time, you're stressed either at work, either at home and then you're going into that moment where, you know, you're throwing your toys out of your pram.
41:44 , first thing you need to do is just bring your attention to your heart.
41:47 Just calm down, put your hands on your chest.
41:51 Just the only reason when you put your hands on your heart is because you bring your awareness to your heart and then just close your eyes and then feel as if you know, breathing in through the nostrils, but breathing into the heart, not through the nostrils, but you are actually breathing into the heart, breathing into the heart nicely slowly and deeper than usual.
42:17 Just taking a breath into your heart slowly gently, deeply than usual and then breathing out, breathing into the heart again, slowly, gently, deeper than usual and then breathing out of the heart and one last time breathing into the heart slowly gently and then deeper than usual and then breathing out of the heart.
42:58 You can either count 1 to 5 or 1 to 4.
43:01 Depends on how, how long you can hold your breath going in and out and that's it.
43:09 And will you come out of it just like, so everything down.
43:16 So, yeah, you're going into the state of coherence.
43:19 Now, you also have the most soothing voice ever and I know it's partly your accent, but it's just like so calming.
43:29 Thank you for that.
43:30 Thank you for sharing that with everyone.
43:32 My pleasure and one last thing I want to share one other tip that I want you all to practice is appreciation.
43:42 Appreciating somebody.
43:44 You know, it's, it's not easy for people to appreciate somebody as easily but right?
43:49 But appreciation is something that is so good for your own.
43:52 Well being appreciating somebody saying something nice, it's again part of kindness, right?
43:57 Saying nice to people take appreciation breaks while you are at work, just like the way you have coffee break, lunch break, tea break, you just go and take on appreciation breaks, go talk to people appreciate and genuinely appreciate, not just for the sake of words, but genuinely appreciate something someone.
44:17 So when you do that, you can see how much happiness you get and you can also see how happy the other person is, it doesn't cost us anything, right?
44:25 So this is how you not only build that relationship with the other person, but also you feel so nice because you know, you have really appreciated somebody from your heart.
44:36 So this is something that is truly amazing.
44:39 One of the technique, it's not a technique, but this is one of a tool that you know, can really regulate your emotions.
44:46 It's really good for your well being.
44:49 I love that practice.
44:50 I I encourage everyone to go out and do that today.
44:54 Thank you so much for sharing that.
44:56 That's I'm gonna do that myself.
44:58 So thank you and then do thank you so much for coming on today.
45:02 I, I loved talking to you.
45:03 I feel like I could talk to you for hours.
45:06 But I, you know, we are on it a little, we're at time.
45:10 So is there, is there any any way that people can get in touch with you?
45:15 How can they find you any other things you're working on that you wanna share?
45:21 I think people can find me from linkedin.
45:23 I'm very active on linkedin.
45:25 So if they do want to reach out to me, I'm very much available there and if they are looking for some kind of guidance or assistance, I'm very much available to help.
45:35 Amazing.
45:36 And I'll make sure and put the link to your linkedin in the show notes so that everyone can find you really easily.
45:42 And thank you so much again for joining it.
45:44 It was such a pleasure to have you on and thank you so much to everyone for listening.
45:49 Please like share, subscribe.
45:51 Let's help heal the world, spread all this, this good vibes everywhere.
45:55 Be sure to check out my book, change your mind with Kris Ashley in paperback, audiobook, ebook, everywhere you get your books.
46:02 And thank you so much.
46:03 I'll see you all next time.
46:04 Have a great day.
46:06 Thank you.
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