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1:03Hi, I'm Kris.
1:05When I was younger, I went through trauma that caused me to feel broken and lost.
1:09But my life changed after I had a spiritual awakening.
1:13Since then, I've dedicated my life to studying and learning from masters all around the world that have helped me to create a life of fulfillment and abundance beyond my wildest dreams.
1:22Now I'm dedicated to sharing everything I've learned so that you don't have to suffer for decades like I did.
1:28I've seen people's lives completely transformed, and I share it all right here.
1:35All right, so with me today, I have Lisa Marie.
1:38So, Lisa is a visionary leader, multi-passionate business strategist, mindful and quantum science expert, known for her transformative approach to personal and professional development.
1:50She is on a mission to serve 1 million crazy obsessed, purpose-driven entrepreneurs, leaders and professionals, teaching how to go beyond ordinary to become limitless.
2:01She's all about neuroscience, epigenetics, quantum physics.
2:04So you know, we're going to get along and ancient wisdom.
2:06So welcome, Lisa.
2:07I'm so happy you're here.
2:10I'm so happy to be here as well, is.
2:12This is gonna be a very juicy conversation.
2:15It is, yes, I know.
2:17I, I cannot wait.
2:18And you know, this, I I start all my episodes the same way.
2:21So I'm gonna ask you the one question that I plan out is, I want to know your origin story.
2:28So how did you get on this path where you are manifesting the life of your dreams, where you're helping these 1 million people, where you're an expert in all of these things?
2:36What led you to that moment?
2:40Oh, a, a childhood of horrors is the only way to explain it.
2:48you know, my, not uncommon.
2:50My dad left when I was 4, but what he left us with was a woman who had very violent psychiatric illness.
2:59My mother.
3:01, proved that she did not want children.
3:06, she threatened to kill us many times.
3:09It was very physically violent, very psychologically violent, a lot of narcissism, manipulation.
3:15She was in and out of psychiatric institutions, but back in the day, because I'm 55 now, so way back then there was, there was not a lot of support for children.
3:26She was very, very clever as well, so she was the perfect mom on the outside, but what happened behind closed doors was horrific.
3:35And, I, it's, it's a very strange way to explain it, but I, I literally just.
3:47disconnected from myself.
3:50And I was almost looking as at my life as an observer, because I think that was the only way I could survive, and because every day was in fear, every day was unpredictable, and, you know.
4:03, it was, it was almost surreal now looking back on it, but I somehow this, I'll, I'll try and keep this, this front end of the story really quick, That I was at school carnival, you know how there's swimming carnivals and track carnivals, I decided I wanted to go to the swimming carnival, threw myself in the pool, nearly drowned halfway, got out and thought, hey, I want to be a swimmer.
4:38And my, my mother agreed to have me do swimming lessons.
4:44At the age of 6 or 7, I was exposed to champions.
4:50I was, I was surrounded by, national champions.
4:55We had an Olympian in our squad.
4:57The coaches were of leadership, mindset.
5:00I had big brothers and sisters, so I actually.
5:05Learned how to play mind movies of winning the race and, and I was exposed to things that you wouldn't think that was sort of awareness back then, but it was.
5:18And that meant I didn't have to be at home 5 hours of the day.
5:21I swam in the morning, swam in the evening, school in the middle of the day.
5:26life got very unsettled as I was becoming a teenager.
5:30I gave up swimming because it became a very sick obsession for my mother, because, anyway, that's another story.
5:40And that's where I got exposed to a martial arts club that had metaphysics in it.
5:45I'd always felt like I was a little bit different.
5:48My sister was very was very immersed in all of the, the, the trauma, whereas I was very disconnected.
5:56And as you know, is, I mentioned to you when we first spoke is that my sister killed herself last October, and she could never find her way out of the darkness and so she lived a horrible, life of, of darkness and abuse and just one tragedy after the other.
6:18But when I was exposed to this metaphysics club, I learned that we could move energy.
6:23I actually felt like I was at home.
6:25I felt like this is normal, and I, here comes some woo.
6:31I experienced astral travel.
6:33I could actually move energy because we learned how to do cheese strikes, all of these unusual things as a teenager.
6:40, but as I, as I was still trapped in this very sick environment.
6:50My body became very sick because even though I disconnected, I internalized all the fear.
6:57And because I'd lived in survival all of my life.
7:01And so from the age of 16 and onwards, I actually became very ill with multiple autoimmune conditions.
7:08I developed systemic endometriosis.
7:11I had 5 other autoimmune conditions.
7:14By the age of 33, I'd been chopped up 18 times.
7:18and, and I was bedridden by that time.
7:21Before that, I'd been in the army.
7:23, I became a medical scientist to try and find my own health solutions, but it was very pharmaceutical driven.
7:30I, I just didn't connect to the Western medicine world.
7:34I knew that there was another solution.
7:37I picked up a couple of abusive husbands along the way because that's what you do, that's what you know, that's what your body's actually used to, of living in more survival.
7:46And the second husband, I, you know, I, I'd always believed I was going to be rich.
7:55Didn't know what that meant, but I thought, hey, I watched The Bold and the Beautiful with my mother as a child, cause that's all that was playing on the TV.
8:03And, and so I thought, well, if those people can do it, so can I.
8:08I didn't know what that meant.
8:10So I got a couple of investment properties.
8:12I worked very hard.
8:14I went guarantor for my second husband in his small business that actually went broke.
8:21And we separated.
8:24I was left with a $500,000 debt.
8:28I had no home, no health, and no money, and that was by the age of 33.
8:35And as I'm But sleeping on the floor.
8:41In, an acquaintance's house.
8:45I just thought, Lisa.
8:47How did you get yourself here?
8:51With all the things that you've been through, with all the things you've achieved, how did you get yourself here?
8:58And that was really one of the biggest defining moments in my life.
9:02I just thought I'm never ever going to be in this situation again.
9:08And that's what took me on to the holistic health.
9:10, world of, I, I wanted to find my own health solutions because I believed I was the solution.
9:19I knew that my, my past was Responsible for who I am, who I was at that point.
9:29And that took me into, an environment where I was able to be connected to high-level personal development, as we discussed, I was very blessed to be mentored by Mr.
9:43Jim Roan.
9:44I went from homeless and facing bankruptcy to building a multi six-figure business.
9:53Travel the world, you know, I literally.
9:57Though the line was in the sand and I'm burning the bridges and I'm never going back there and that was the trajectory of me stepping into the journey of pretty much the last 20 years of mind blowing manifestation.
10:16Wow, thank you so much for sharing all of that.
10:20Thank you for your vulnerability, you know, I, I.
10:24I, I have this like knee jerk reaction to be like, I'm so sorry you went through all that because that's what people say to me when I share share about my trauma, right?
10:31But But I also believe that I think you probably do too, like, everything happens for a reason and you were put on that path so that you could overcome all of those horrendous, horrendous things that you went through that just one of those things would could destroy it like anyone, right?
10:52And you know, I just admire your story so much, your journey so much that you came out of that and And are so successful and you've healed yourself and now you're helping other people, you know, it's just, it's really inspirational and I'm sure reader or readers so used to writing, your listeners will feel that way as well.
11:11So I just appreciate you sharing your story.
11:14And I have so many more questions now, that I want to know, you know, we're going to talk about the, the energy and the more woo woo stuff in a moment, but you know, I want to I want to talk about the actual like physical stuff first, because I think a lot of people are going to connect to that.
11:31You said you had 18 surgeries.
11:33Yeah, that's a lot of surgeries.
11:36and I know when we were talking before, you said that they were all like lower chakra survival kind of places like you mentioned the endometriitis.
11:44Can you talk a little bit more about like the illnesses and then also the healing, like, how did you end up healing yourself?
11:51Yes.
11:53I, even though I hadn't really been exposed to understanding fully the chakra system, and there are people who don't believe and there are people who Sort of understand it's out there and there there are people who really grasp it and, and so I was in the middle road and, and I knew that because we are energy and you know the fact that I am a medical scientist, I spent 15 years looking down a microscope looking at cells.
12:29Understanding that electron microscope, all we see is a bunch of atoms and beyond that is vibrating energy, so we are just vibrating energy if we want to bring the science fact into it.
12:44And we emit an electromagnetic field.
12:47We can measure that.
12:49so, you know, it's really beautiful that we can, Quantum science is, it's there and then it's not.
13:00, whereas science for the people who need evidence, but I think, I think we all have enough evidence that if we think of a friend sometimes and all of a sudden they message us and it's just like, oh, just thinking of you.
13:15Well, guess what, that's actually the energy field that the two energy fields have connected.
13:21And so I knew that our body was energy.
13:24And I also knew that I had to do a heck of a lot of healing.
13:32I wasn't broken.
13:33I don't believe anybody is broken, is.
13:37All I believe is They've been so, overwhelmed with all of life's stuff of other people creating their identity.
13:54As a kid, we're born with an empty vessel.
13:57And so when we're growing up, we can only gather data of our environment.
14:04And if our environment's toxic, that's our data.
14:08And so that becomes part of ourselves.
14:11And so from an energetic perspective, I 90% of my disease was in below my, below my belly button.
14:22Our first three survival chakras are from where we sit up to our solar plexus, and so I was also severely injured in the army that left my lower limb disabled.
14:36I, my hip joint was severely damaged, so for 33 years I was in crippling pain and I could not walk without a walking stick.
14:46And so all the trauma, all the disease, all the pain, all the sadness, all the fear, all the anger, all the grief, all the shame was actually trapped down there.
14:59And so, as I started to learn how to.
15:04I was looking for answers.
15:06I was that one of those crazy obsessed, seeking people that I, you know, having my, my little intro of the bio.
15:14Because I believed I could achieve anything.
15:17I believed I could be limitless.
15:19I played my movies as a, as a child swimmer.
15:22I knew I could win the race in my mind, and I went on to do that in physical body.
15:28And so, when, when you learn how to start to release.
15:35There is a, there is a process, there's things to do in a certain order, and, and if you don't do them in that order, then you still remain blocked.
15:46And so for years, I tried all these different methods.
15:51And it was only really through trial and error and continuing to pursue different healing arts and different methods of, quantum that I started to release the layers of all of that stuff that was literally, destroying my body.
16:16And destroying my mind along the process because our cells.
16:23Become addicted to the hormones of stress.
16:25That's the epigenetics part, and we're gonna talk about that.
16:29So you can, you can start to see the links and the patterns and the, the connections to it all once you start identifying different areas.
16:41I had to become a different person.
16:45Yeah, yeah, and I, I, I just appreciate everything that you said from looking into the microscope and and knowing that atoms don't have a physical structure, right?
16:56Like that, that is such a mind blowing fact that it's it's an invisible vortex of spinning energy and that is what makes us up, that's what makes up everything in the universe, right, like.
17:09I just, I don't understand how people have everyday just small talk conversations when there's when that's happening, right?
17:16Like it just it blows my mind.
17:19and, and I love that you were talking about that you knew you were limitless.
17:25You just had to find that path there.
17:28Right.
17:28And I think, I think that is such a relatable thing, especially for people who listen to shows like this where it's like, I hear Joe Dipensa say that, and I hear Greg Braden say that and I hear all these mystics say it, right, or Tony Robbins or Jim Rohn or whoever, but it's like, OK, but then like, How do I believe that so much in every cell of my being that I'm able to make that transformation.
17:54So, you, you said that there was an order you have to do that in.
17:57Talk to me about that order.
17:59What did you discover after all this trial and error?
18:04There is a word that is very, very powerful, and a lot of people just can't do it because they're living in so much pain and holding on to so much pain.
18:17I forgiveness.
18:21Forgiveness is the final act of love.
18:24My heart chakra was so closed, locked tight in a vault.
18:32Because I didn't want to get hurt, but guess what, no love comes out either.
18:38I was not a nice person.
18:41I was an obsessed, high achieving, get out of my way or I'll run you down kind of gal for me to gain success.
18:51In the early days, but if people know Tony, Tony Robbins speaking of, the six human needs.
19:02Significance is actually one of them.
19:04Yeah.
19:05And to feel needed, cause I never got nurtured.
19:10I never, I never received love.
19:14And when you don't receive it, you don't know how to give it either.
19:19These are all learned behaviors, by the way.
19:22And so if we can learn a new behavior, that's what an open growth mindset is.
19:28If the lids closed, we ain't gonna get much done.
19:32And, and, and so, you know, it's, it's about.
19:36When You can open up your, your heart.
19:43And understand that everybody suffers, every being on this planet lives in a state of suffering, but you can still experience, Unfortunate things, but live with joy and happiness and inner peace in your heart.
20:01One of my biggest life quests was to find inner peace and happiness.
20:07I found that, that may be another, Conversation that we go into, but forgiveness.
20:16Actually starts to allow you to let things go.
20:22If you do not let them go, they are still part of your identity.
20:28And if you're here and you want to get here, And you don't let stuff go.
20:35The baggage is too heavy.
20:38You got no room to go up there.
20:40And We have to make space for you to come in.
20:45So if you're so clogged up with all of this crap, all this garbage, all this pain.
20:51All this hate and anger and shame and grief, all of those lower chakra survival.
20:58Feelings Then You're not going to be able to advance.
21:06Yeah, that is so beautifully said, and when you said there's that word I'm like on the edge of my seat and you said forgiveness, I just got instant goosebumps, because you're right, because all of that stuff you hold on to is poison and If you hold on to poison, it's just gonna hurt you.
21:24It it is drinking poison every single day, hoping that the problem's gonna go away.
21:31And when I, I had, I had a, a, a Western trained doctor.
21:39She was Chinese, but I only went to her clinic for Eastern Health.
21:46We both agreed that Western medicine was there just to, you know, if you broke your leg to fix your leg and, and she just said, Lisa, and she, oh my gosh.
21:59When she looked at me, like, she looked into the window of my soul, I connected with her.
22:05It was just like, wow, she just came in.
22:08It was such a I can't even explain it, but I felt like she was in my body, and she said, Lisa.
22:16When you understand that you have to forgive your mother, your life will change.
22:21And oh And I said, How do I do that?
22:25I can't even be in her space.
22:28I've not spoken to my mother since I was 20.
22:31I've not spoken to her for 35 years.
22:34No contact whatsoever.
22:35She stalked me for a while and I get, you know, phone calls and hang up and all that kind of stuff, but she said there are many, many different ways you can go through the forgiveness process.
22:46And you can write her letters and you don't have to post them.
22:51You can pray for her that.
22:54She's living every single day in suffering, and that you hope that she finds peace in her heart.
23:00You can understand that the way she is.
23:04is all that she knew.
23:07And that didn't matter what anybody else was gonna do or what medication they were gonna give her, if she chose not to change, she was not going to change.
23:19And so I went through this very, it took a long time.
23:24There were, I'm going to reference Ajan Brahm.
23:27He is a Buddhist monk out of one of the Western Australian monasteries here, but he's he's a very known worldly global speaker, and he's British, and he's so funny, he had 4 ways of of letting go and you know I've listened to.
23:50Abraham Hicks and, you know, I've, I've done, I've done everything and I've gone through phases of things, and one of them was, you know, you could write the letter and then have a little burning ritual in the backyard and and just release the energy, you could.
24:07Tie something to a a rock and then throw it into the, the, the forest and and let it, the energy go as you do.
24:16So there are just so many different ways.
24:18There are many, many different pathways to the destination.
24:22And if you really want to change, You just have to keep doing and doing and doing and practicing and practicing and practicing and and you you will undo the layers as you're going along.
24:35You might not see, say, why aren't I fixed yet?
24:40Because we, we probably won't even go into this conversation in this episode, is, but we don't even know what the ancestral things are, like, what baggage were we carrying in from our previous life.
24:56That we've got to undo all of this now, so, you know, it's, it's fascinating and I'm forever curious.
25:05Yeah, I love, I love what you said it towards the end where you're like, you just have to keep trying and trying and practicing and practicing.
25:12And that really has been my path as well.
25:14Like, I'm like you, I was a truth seeker.
25:16I still am, right?
25:17And I I try freaking everything because there's always more, right?
25:22You come back to the same things, you're like, I got to heal this shit, right?
25:26And it's there again.
25:27And there's never been like one specific healing modality that's been like that miracle cure for me.
25:34It's just been this process, and I appreciate that you said that because so many people are out there looking for that one thing and sometimes that one thing will chip away at this, and then you try something else and it takes that away.
25:46So I think, I think that's a really good thing for people to hear.
25:49, so the other piece of the more physical aspect of your story is you went from bankruptcy to multiple six figures, and you were left not only sick, but also with this huge debt and without a home.
26:05I know you said you studied under Jymone, but like, what was that process of pulling yourself out of bankruptcy and becoming really successful?
26:15Belief Just, I had this inner knowing, ever since I was a little girl.
26:24I just had this inner knowing that.
26:29I was here.
26:31For a reason, and I had to find that reason, I had to find that purpose, but I felt like somehow I'm gonna help change the world.
26:41And That it's just been almost like stepping stones along the way.
26:49As you were talking about the healing modalities, this method fixed that part, this method healed that part, and I believe that you, you only receive the information that you're ready to process.
27:05And it's the case of when the student is ready, the master will appear, right?
27:10And, and so you can hear something over and over and over again and you don't get it.
27:15And then because you've been doing other work, all of a sudden you'll hear it.
27:20And the light bulb goes off.
27:22Yeah, oh my gosh, I've heard that for the last 5 years and I didn't get it.
27:29Yeah, and you have to like feel it in your body too, right?
27:32Yes, yes, because you're ready to receive that because you're at the level like every Every little layer that we undo.
27:45We actually, it frequency and vibration, Nikola Tesla had it way back in the, in the 1800s, so if we think of the universe of energy frequency and vibration, like it's no accident that these great people of the past, already knew it, already knew the great secret.
28:08Us silly humans now are just so overwhelmed with technology that we don't have time to actually be still enough to, to get that intuition.
28:20So I, I wanted, because I'd always had this.
28:26Wu side to me, I wanted to still.
28:32Western medicine was, was a great Apprenticeship for me, it allowed me to understand so much about how the human body worked.
28:43And then I just combined that with, right, I know on an energetic level, some stuff.
28:50And so why not combine the two?
28:54I was introduced to, functional nutrition, and, I thought, well, I'll give this a go because I've always eaten healthily, exercised, even though I was critically unwell.
29:10Like there's a connection here.
29:13If you, you can do all the physical body stuff.
29:18But if you're not doing the internal work, It doesn't, it doesn't stick.
29:27Your, your body is so toxic in bad energy, and so how can I raise my vibration?
29:34Well, by, by trying something different.
29:39And so the, the nutrition pathway, I got connected with a beautiful herbal range of nutrition products.
29:49I got thrown into this amazing personal development world.
29:52I knew how I wanted to help people, which was through nutrition, fitness and mindset, and I just went to work and I, I just, I had never been, well, apart from Trying to support my ex-husband in his business already back then because it was a catering business, I went door to door to, to the businesses to see if they wanted catering in their business.
30:19And so I thought, hmm, OK, well, I don't have a car.
30:23I've got my two legs and a walking stick.
30:26I'm going to go door to door and let people know what I do, and if they want to get healthy, fix their digestive issues, lose weight, that's how I'll start to get clients.
30:35And that's literally what I did.
30:37I went door to door.
30:38I dropped flies in letterboxes.
30:41And I slowly started to build up a client base.
30:45I got to the point where I could support a brick and mortar lease, I expanded the, the business, and, and it was, it was incredible, it just started to, to accelerate.
31:01To an incredible level that I was now in momentum.
31:09I was vibrating at a much higher level, and that in itself is healing.
31:17And so my body started to, from a, here's a real nerdy science fact for the listeners.
31:26We literally regrow a new body around every 90 days.
31:30All of the cellular processes, like the cells we have in our body today, weren't even there yesterday, pardon me, yes, weren't there yesterday, so we're continually turning over billions of cells.
31:45And so if we've got good input, both nutritionally and like nutrition for the brain, listening to personal development, listening to how we can restore our body, reset our body internally.
32:01The body is actually going to start vibrating at a higher level, the cells get healthier, the, the hormone output gets healthier, the energy within the body gets healthier.
32:10And so all of this just took me on a trajectory and because I was so good at mind movies, I started to visualize really out there things of what I wanted to achieve.
32:21Like my bucket list is huge.
32:24And I'm so blessed, I've probably been to 1820 countries, I've, I've, I've lived extraordinary experiences.
32:33Because I saw it all here first.
32:36And when you want something, I was prepared to work hard.
32:40I did the work, I had the finances, I went and experienced.
32:46And so that is just the, the magic carpet of life.
32:50If you Just keep believing that anything is possible.
32:56I love that so much.
32:57We are so aligned.
32:58I, I just, I want listeners just like stop, pause, rewind, oops in my mic, rewind and listen to that again because That really is the key, right?
33:09And I love that you went door to door, right?
33:11Like there is always something you can do right now with the tools that you have available to you, even if you need a freaking walking stick to walk.
33:21Right?
33:22Like, there's always something you can do.
33:25And if you're saying there's nothing you can do, it's, it's your own limiting belief or you trying to talk yourself out of something.
33:33It's the story you're telling yourself, literally, it's to be a story because there are people who have You know, Victor, think of, Victor.
33:44Victor, the man who was in the The Holocaust.
33:53I'll think of his name in a minute.
33:56But Tony Robbins even speaks of this man of being incarcerated in the Holocaust day after day after day and being tortured and, you know, he went on to be one of the greatest philosophers teaching the world how to survive and thrive.
34:21Yeah, there's another Holocaust survivor.
34:24No, she, you know her story, Corey Tanbam, have you heard her story too?
34:28So she, her family helped Jewish families escape, and they were like hiding them in their walls.
34:38And the Nazis found out and they put her, her sister and her father in concentration camps.
34:44Her sister and her father died in the camps and she survived.
34:48And then after like years later, she yeah, so she ran into someone who she recognized as a guard at the camp, who was particularly cruel to her sister.
34:58And he asked for her forgiveness and she gave it, right, talking about forgiveness, and she felt so free that she ended up touring the world and teaching forgiveness, like, These, like I just have goosebumps just talking about, right?
35:10Like, these, yeah, I mean, it's like if, if these people who have been in such horrific situations can teach survival and can teach thriving and can teach forgiveness, you can too.
35:23Yes, right.
35:25So I, before we, I know we're like, I'm going to have you back on, by the way, but before we skip over to the wu, you said something interesting.
35:33You said that you used to be this go-getter, who was like, everyone get out of my way.
35:37I want to save the world, like, tell me, tell me a moment about that, because I know people like that, and I think that's really interesting because you still had the personal development mindset, you wanted to help people, but it was.
35:51It was maybe more ego-driven, is that what?
35:55And you know, I'm, I'm so open about that because I, I had no, no one else teaching me except a a horrible person and so that's, that's who I, who I was, I didn't go around being a nasty person.
36:16I was just so self-centered and selfish of I'm gonna achieve this no matter what attitude.
36:25If I've been through this and I can achieve this, then you can, you've got no excuses.
36:30That's sort of how I was.
36:32, I was living life and, and I didn't smile, I didn't want people around me.
36:37I, I, so, you know, I, I could just be on my Be on my mission And the, the, there was a, a change.
36:50A very big change that occurred when I was I was about 1112 years ago, so I was early 40s.
37:00But the the fact that I Wanted to Prove that your past didn't define your future, but I just didn't have the right information to do it the right way and And when you When you, I was, I was driven by angry desire.
37:27That's probably the easiest way to explain it.
37:32But the, the, the tragedy of that is, I didn't know I was angry.
37:38I thought I'd done all this work and that I was OK.
37:43Isn't it funny that we don't know particular things about ourselves until we know?
37:49Absolutely.
37:50You don't know what you don't know until you know, and it's just like, oh my gosh, I've been angry all of this time.
38:00And there was an event in Singapore.
38:03Can I spend a couple of minutes just sharing this story?
38:06I, I'm really interested in this part.
38:08yes, please, please.
38:09I want to hear it.
38:12This is a wow moment.
38:13This was like the, the major trajectory of, of who I have become over the last 1012, 15 years.
38:22And This was a high-level leadership seminar, a conference, it was a weekend conference, and there were lots of international guest speakers.
38:32The speakers on stage were Korean, and so it was all through translation, and they were so beautiful.
38:39They were about 5 ft nothing.
38:42Husband and wife for many decades, you could just feel the love oozing out of them.
38:48They were just so beautiful, and they had a picture of a big blue door up on the screen.
38:56And In the that that if you, if you follow the Buddhist philosophy, the, the blue door is actually the doorway to joy and happiness.
39:08And they, oh, every time I tell this story, I start to get a, a, a very deep feeling in my heart.
39:18they, they put a different slant on it, and they said, this blue door is actually the doorway to your heart.
39:27Is it opened or is it closed?
39:30And I, I just burst out crying at that point.
39:37And my partner's sitting next to me saying what's going on?
39:39I just said, it's OK, don't worry about it.
39:43and, and I just thought, Lisa.
39:46For 40 years, you've actually tormented yourself and you've had your heart closed so tight.
39:55Yes, you've achieved all these things, but you're miserable.
39:59So success without fulfillment is misery.
40:04And I was miserable.
40:07And at that moment, it was just like, whoa.
40:12I had this massive heart opening release.
40:17And I cried a lot more and my partner's going, what's wrong with you?
40:22And I just said, I'll tell you later, and I just sobbed and I sobbed and I sobbed.
40:29Whew!
40:29I'm getting upset now.
40:31And at that moment, that angry desire.
40:36Turned into inspired desire.
40:40And my life has never been the same since.
40:45Wow, I, I have serious goosebumps right now and you were like making me choke up.
40:52I feel like I needed to hear that story and I'm so grateful to you for sharing it.
40:58And I'm, I'm sure there's other listeners out here and There's, it's so funny, right?
41:04Like, we, we, I was looking at our list of everything to talk about and all these amazing things in quantum physics and epigenetics, and I feel like that was the story, like that was the story.
41:14So I'm so glad that you shared it.
41:17And wow, what an amazing moment.
41:19Like I to just have that rush, that opening, like I could, I could feel it as you were saying it.
41:25So thank you.
41:27There's a lot of change going on in my body right now because I'm reliving it again, massive, massive.
41:33Oh.
41:36It reminds me of what you were saying before too, where it's like you can hear the same thing 500 times and then just that one person says it that one way, and you've done X, Y, and Z up until that point and it's like bam, right?
41:50Yeah, that's it.
41:52That's it.
41:54Yeah, that's really cool.
41:55, so I know that you are focusing on people who have been in your shoes, who have been in my shoes, probably still are in my shoes, right, who are high achievers were like people who, who, who know that they have less potential, right?
42:13They've played those my movies, they've studied all the things like they've heard that thing 500 times, but they haven't had that.
42:22The breakthrough, the breakthrough, yeah, yeah, thank you.
42:28What is it that holds most people back?
42:29I know we were talking about forgiveness, but like is Like what else is it?
42:34Like what, what do all those people have in common?
42:37What, what I believe is because, you know, the, the thing that I've really become very, I'm going to say powerful in.
42:50And it's OK to toot your own horn.
42:53Like we've all got a gift, right?
42:56You've got your incredible, beautiful gift.
42:59I've got mine.
43:01And, and when you, when you know that, you, you just completely embody it and embrace it and just, it, it, that, that has momentum in itself.
43:13It's a spiral up.
43:14It's, it's very powerful that I can bring.
43:18The, the neuroscience and the quantum science with that ancient wisdom all together, it's a bit like a triangle, and, and within it is the heart, the heart's in the center.
43:31, and the When we can do all of this work.
43:42On the, yes, the internal and the external environment, but if we literally don't recode our cells, like our physical cells that still have all of that memory, That's the epigenetic side of it.
43:57We literally need to recode ourselves.
44:01To, to become the version of the person that we need to be, that wants to achieve those things.
44:08Otherwise we just stay here.
44:11And so that, that now is the pathway that I teach.
44:16I know, cause I've done it.
44:18I know how to have that, that, that stairs staircase to, to literally recode and rewire, the, both the, the, the physical body and the spiritual body.
44:33To literally, like your higher self has already walked the path.
44:37It knows how to get there, that's why you see it in your mind.
44:40You've just got these blocks that you, you, you can't find how to get around them or under them or through them.
44:49So do you think it's like our old programming that's still stuck in our body even though we can like visualize all that?
44:561000%, yes, 100%.
45:00Yeah, and I know earlier.
45:03Yeah, so, so what is it?
45:06like what's your method?
45:07Is it meditation, is it, what is it?
45:11Yes, it's, well, I call it an activation meditation.
45:16And of course, it's not a one and done, of course.
45:22Wouldn't that be great if it was?
45:24Wouldn't we all be successful?
45:26That's why the 1% is 1%, right?
45:30That, from a, from a science point of view, it takes 66 days to rewire a new neural pathway for it to become an automatic process.
45:41And how many people hang it out 66 days?
45:44Like, let's be honest, you, the, the, the process has to be consistent, so there is, there is actually an evolution of through the chakras, that is a recoding process, and it's it's done literally every day as we're moving up.
46:05And so that process is On an internal energetic level.
46:13Reprogramming our subconscious, which then from the brain starts to have a different chemical release on the body which then coats our cells coming back to that epigenetics and so our new cells coming through have a different gene expression of your more happy, joyful, loving, forgiving self.
46:36Expanding into the version of the person that you want to be to achieve those things.
46:41Yeah, I love that.
46:41And you were saying earlier, I wrote it down, cells become addicted to hormones, and I, I imagine they can also become addicted to.
46:49Success or to this, I mean, well, like you said, it changes the gene expression.
46:54Yes, yes, that's it.
46:57We can either be because do you drink coffee?
47:01I drink decaf coffee.
47:04Damn, I can't use that as an example.
47:07Well, all you coffee drinkers out there or smokers, all the people who need their glass of wine at nighttime, what happens is because that's become a habit.
47:17We, we have our cells have the, got the little receptors for the caffeine or the nicotine or the alcohol on its cells.
47:29And also for the people who are sad and depressed, you've got receptors for those particular hormones on your cells.
47:39And so if you don't feel sad or depressed today, You'll create a crisis.
47:45If you don't have your caffeine or your nicotine or your glass of wine, you start to get really agitated or a massive headache, and that's because your, your physical body is saying, I haven't had my fix.
48:02When are you going to give it to me?
48:03And as soon as you have it, So let's flip that onto the positive side.
48:09If you want your body in joy, love, kindness, compassion, forgiveness over and over and over and over again, it's not chanting affirmations in the mirror, by the way.
48:23You've got to do that a certain way for it to have a neurological effect, that, your, your, you will coat your body in all of those beautiful hormones, and that is your state of being.
48:37We literally have to change our state of being, and that is the pathway to success.
48:44I love that you really are tying in because it's the quantum physics with the my movies, right?
48:50And the, the.
48:52Bringing up your frequency and bringing into that new energy and, and, you know, reaching out to the quantum field that you can have anything, but it's also like that more grounded aspect of like, no, you literally need to change your biology.
49:08Right, you do, you do.
49:11It's, it's a cellular level, as well as a spiritual energetic level.
49:19Yeah.
49:21Yeah, and it's, it's funny, like, as you're talking, like, we all know those people who, they're like, oh, I'll be happy.
49:27They complain about something and it's like, what would make you happy if this happened?
49:30And then that happens and then there's something else, right?
49:32And then they're still unhappy.
49:34And as you're saying, that's like, yeah, they need their fix of depression or their fix of victimhood.
49:40That's a big one, right?
49:41Or they, they fix of, you know, complaining.
49:47So, OK, you can actually see the patterns in people.
49:50If things are going too well and they're used to being miserable, something will happen to put them back into that state.
49:58If they don't do it, they will attract it.
50:01Yeah.
50:03So You know, we've kind of gone in this one direction, like we have maybe 5 minutes left, like, what else do you feel like we need to talk about today that listeners need to hear or that we didn't touch on?
50:18You know, Kris, right at the beginning, when you were just reading out my little bio, I think the true essence of who I am is to plant the seeds of hope in people.
50:32That they, they are already abundant.
50:36There is already abundance around them, they are already limitless.
50:41They just have to learn the sequence of events and be prepared to do the work.
50:48And be consistent at doing the work, and then all of their wildest dreams will actually come true.
50:57I love that.
50:58What a beautiful.
51:00Message to end on and and I'm sure everyone listening is dying to know how they can work with you.
51:07So please tell us a little bit about how you work with people, where we can find you, social media, whatever.
51:14Yes, thank you.
51:15So, my first name is Lisa, my surname is Marie.
51:19People get that a bit mixed up, but you can find me at Lisa Marie.com, so L I S A M A double RE.com, and I have a beautiful free activation meditation on my homepage.
51:36Of a morning in a power.
51:39so, you know, people can go and get a little bit of a taste of how I do things.
51:45I also have, a work with me page on there that if people do want to look at working with me, various options, they, they can just go to that page.
51:57My main platform is LinkedIn and and so it is my name Lisa Marie, M A double R E, and I have just started a YouTube channel, so I'm doing, I'm going to be doing lots of videos on a regular basis there as well with a lot of PD stuff going into the superconscious world and all sorts of things.
52:18What's your YouTube channel?
52:20, Lisa Marie Unlimited.
52:24All right, I'm gonna follow you too.
52:25And I'll have all of those links in the show notes as well.
52:28So if, if you're listening and you didn't catch all of it, it's all there.
52:31, amazing.
52:33You are such an inspiration.
52:35I, I feel inspired after talking to you.
52:38I'm sure other people feel just as touched.
52:41So thank you for your time.
52:42I would absolutely love to have you back on the show and we can get more into, oh my gosh, astral travel and moving energy and quantum fields and all the things that I was taking notes of as you were talking that we didn't even get to.
52:55, and if you're listening, and this resonated, please like, comment, share, subscribe, send it to someone who you think could use it.
53:05And I will see you all on the next episode.
53:08Have a beautiful rest of your day.
53:10No, thank you so much.