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0:04 I'm your host, Kris Ashley.
0:05 I am really excited for today's episode.
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0:53 Hi, I'm Kris.
0:55 When I was younger, I went through trauma that caused me to feel broken and lost.
0:59 But my life changed after I had a spiritual awakening since then, I've dedicated my life to studying and learning from masters all around the world that have helped me to create a life of fulfillment and abundance beyond my wildest dreams.
1:12 Now I'm dedicated to sharing everything I've learned so that you don't have to suffer for decades.
1:17 Like I did, I've seen people's lives completely transform and I share it all right here.
1:25 All right.
1:25 So with me today, I have Nancy Reed as a spiritual life coach, intuitive healer and author, Nancy Reed supports intuitive sensitive, successful empathic and mission driven women to embrace their perfectly imperfect self with curiosity and gentle, gentleness.
1:42 So they learn to trust the wisdom of their soul, live from their dreams, not their perceived limitations and live there happily ever after now.
1:50 Not after everything else is perfect.
1:52 I love that it is possible to gently align the mind, body and spirit with love and then extend and infuse that integrated essence into every aspect of life.
2:03 Nancy is also a longtime student and teacher of a course in miracles and has facilitated healing and transformations for over 1000 clients to welcome Nancy.
2:13 Hey, Kris, how are you?
2:15 I'm doing really well.
2:16 I'm I'm really excited to have you here.
2:18 This is an episode I've been looking forward to for a while.
2:21 Oh, thank you so much and likewise, I, I just enjoy everything that you are standing for and putting out into the world.
2:32 Thanks for saying that All right.
2:35 So I start all my episodes the same way.
2:37 And that is by asking my guests, what is their origin story?
2:41 What led you on this path?
2:42 What made you want to be the spiritual teacher that you are today?
2:48 Wow.
2:48 I guess I would say that I'm a reluctant spiritual teacher in the fact that I did my best to avoid all of this and to hide from it because it was overwhelming.
3:03 And even when I was a little girl, I was highly empathic, but I didn't know that word at the time, I just knew that I could feel what other people were feeling.
3:11 I could sense the energy of spaces before or I even went into a place.
3:17 And then also, I was immediately looking for the exit routes all the time because I wanted to know that if it got overwhelming or when it got overwhelming for me that I had a way out.
3:27 So, you know, that, that's just kind of like a little bit of some back background.
3:31 Right?
3:32 And then with those abilities, what I ended up doing with it was that I wanted to be normal like everybody else.
3:42 And so I didn't really talk about the things that I was feeling except for maybe like with my mom or something.
3:48 Right?
3:49 And none of my friends were talking about things like this.
3:51 And so instead I used that ability of being able to sense what people were feeling, being able to read energies to really become a chameleon of sorts.
4:04 And I got really good at hiding in plain sight.
4:09 I got really good at adapting myself to whatever the energy was in front of me.
4:15 But nobody really knew the real me.
4:18 And I didn't think of it as manipulation.
4:20 I thought of it as survival because I was convinced that if they really knew what was going on in my head and the dreams that I was having, I would literally be burned at the stake.
4:29 And, you know, it was, it was just overwhelming.
4:32 And I, again, I didn't really have anyone to talk to about it.
4:35 And I, I just think back to that sweet little girl that had all these feelings and, and cared so much for people and, and love people so deeply and yet always had this sense that maybe this wasn't really my home, maybe, maybe this was a place that I wasn't really meant to be like it, it, it never really felt like there were others that were like me.
4:57 Well, that, that sounds so isolating.
5:00 Yeah.
5:00 It's such a young girl.
5:03 Yeah, it really was.
5:04 And, and, and, and, and on the surface though, nobody would have guessed it because it was like, you know, we lived in a nice house.
5:12 My dad had a good job.
5:13 My mom was always involved in the school and everything like that.
5:16 And so it was like on the surface, it looked like I should have all the reasons in the world to smile and all the worlds and the reason to be grateful.
5:25 And I was grateful for my life.
5:27 But I always felt like I was literally playing a role of something other than me and that if I was to actually be my true self, everyone else would run away.
5:39 So, so that is kind of the background for what got me then through childhood, through adolescence being very good at, you know, asking when the teacher would say like, well, if you were to be a superhero, what would be the one power you would want?
5:54 And I would say invisibility because I didn't want to be noticed.
5:58 And yet there was also this inner light within me that people couldn't help but be attracted to.
6:04 They would come and tell me their life stories when I was in high school in college and I'd be at the coffee shop, like just wanting to study or something.
6:11 And I'd be like, who are you?
6:12 Like, I, I don't know you, why are you telling me this?
6:15 And, and they felt very comfortable and it would like, make them feel better to talk to me.
6:20 And I was even talking, I was just listening.
6:22 I was holding space usually most of the time and, and, and so all of this happened for, you know, the 1st 1820 years or something like that of my life.
6:31 And yet I did have these experiences.
6:33 I did have very lucid dreams.
6:35 I did have,, you know, experiences of having what I called my sparkles fall down from the ceiling when I was a little girl that looked like litter was being shake, you know, shaken out and on, on the ceiling and coming down in pastels because I was having nightmares.
6:51 And my grandmother at the time, she told me and we weren't really religious, but she was, and she told me at the time that if I was ever having a hard time or if I was scared, I should ask Jesus for help.
7:05 And I was like, oh, ok.
7:06 So that's what Jesus says.
7:07 He's someone that helps Children.
7:09 And so I remember being in my bed and having these dreams where I was being chased and chased and chased and I could never get away from this figure that was look, you know, running after me and it was like a faceless figure.
7:20 And that I asked one night and I said, Jesus, please help me.
7:25 I'm so scared.
7:26 You know, my dad's leaving, this is my parents were getting divorced.
7:29 I thought it was my fault and everything was falling apart in my world.
7:33 And I was having these nightmares.
7:34 And from that night on, I saw these all, I called them my sparkles and it was like somebody was just shaking a can of glitter out from the ceiling and they fall down and they were catching the light.
7:46 And so, even though it was dark, it was as though there was light in the room with me and I felt so much better goose bumps.
7:53 I know I felt, I felt so much better and I didn't have any, no nightmares and then they kept coming for probably about, I don't know, six or nine months or something like that.
8:02 And then I remember being very, very, very aware and looking up at the ceiling one night and saying, thank you sparkles.
8:10 Like you've helped me so much.
8:12 I'm ok now.
8:13 So please go help another little girl.
8:16 Oh my gosh.
8:17 And how old were you at that point?
8:19 With the sparkles?
8:20 I would have been five.
8:22 Wow, that's, that's a lot of big feelings and a lot going on and just a lot of awareness for a five year old.
8:32 Yeah, like I said, I was a very, like old soul in, in a lot of ways.
8:36 And people used to always say that to my mom too.
8:38 I would talk to my friend's parents more than my friends.
8:42 Like, like I would have these conversations dates and I'd be like talking to people and I'd be, I remember talking to this one mom and I would be like, oh, I love your outfit.
8:52 Where did you get it from?
8:53 It just ties everything so well together and like, you know, so I had these relationships with my friend's parents more than even my friends.
9:01 It was like I was this little tiny girl but with this huge soul and, and, and, and like this, this understanding way beyond my years.
9:09 So all of that took me through childhood, adolescence, college, everything.
9:14 And I had become very, very, very good at hiding the true me.
9:18 And every once in a while I would get little glimpses of that intuition of that inner knowing of that voice.
9:25 Kind of, you know, that, that that could not really be explained by anything of this world, but I kept it very close to me and other than journaling, nobody else knew really.
9:35 So then it come a few years after college, I am on a date with this guy that I think is just the cutest thing ever.
9:44 And I overlook the fact that he's clearly been drinking and I didn't even know the signs to look for at that point.
9:52 But I did have my inner voice, that same inner voice that had always been with me and she said, don't get in that car and I didn't listen, you know, I was like, no, that can't be right.
10:03 Look how cute he is.
10:04 He wants to take me on this drive.
10:06 Like yeah, we should go.
10:07 So I got in and then as soon as we started driving, I was like, oh, I made a really bad mistake.
10:12 I need to get out of this car, but it was too late.
10:15 And, and so the car, you know, was driving faster and faster and faster and it was on like two directions of, of road basically, but it was only a single lane, right?
10:25 So people can go either way.
10:27 And so we're just really lucky that there wasn't a like head on collision when our accident happened, which is that he promised me he was gonna slow down after the next corner and we went around the next corner and the brakes locked the car spun and we basically went over the edge of a cliff and I was the passenger and my voice that told me not to do this.
10:49 And I had said no, all for a cute boy.
10:53 So terrifying.
10:54 That was, I mean, it, it, yeah, I can laugh about it now because that's all we can do right in, in, in hindsight is if we just beat ourselves up incessantly, we're never going to get anywhere.
11:06 So I can definitely acknowledge my part in it and I can have compassion and love for her and, and, and, and know that yes, I would make a different decision today, but obviously it had a purpose because it took me to where I am right now.
11:19 But as I was going over the edge of this cliff, what I thought was really interesting is that other people I've spoken to that have had like near death experiences that I really thought we were gonna die for one thing and, and, and that there was so much force and so much speed and I thought that another car was gonna come the other direction that we were going over the edge.
11:39 I saw in front of me almost like I was watching a movie like a single, just stream of film that was coming across that showed me every instance in my life until that point where there had been either unintentional or intentional unkindness.
11:56 So something that was unkind or that was like resentful or some kind of, you know, a grievance.
12:03 Basically that that was there.
12:05 And I was like, why am I being shown this?
12:07 This is the last thing I'm gonna see before I die.
12:09 Like this is horrible.
12:10 Like I, I don't even know and then we go over the edge and as we're going over the edge, that little voice that now is a little louder, she speaks again and she says, push up and I'm like, all right, I'm listening to you.
12:24 And so I threw my hand up into the roof of the car just naturally and kind of wedged myself because it turned out the seat belt that I was in wasn't self adjusting.
12:34 And a person had ridden in it before me who was much larger.
12:37 So it had a lot of give.
12:38 So I would have definitely either hit the dashboard or gone through the window, but I didn't, instead I wedged myself in, I locked up my stomach like as hard as I could and I just froze into that position.
12:50 So when we went over, I was very tense which didn't help and I did get injured, but I didn't get my head injured.
12:56 Right.
12:57 So, so, so we land at the bottom and I realized, wow, I'm not dead.
13:03 I just thought I was and I've got to get out of this car.
13:07 And so I go through this like heroine's journey to get out of the car and get rescued by a random seemingly driver that is out on this very, very, very, you know, untraveled road basically.
13:23 And there's no cell phone reception, there's no anything and yet there he is this truck driver that helps me and brings me back up to the road and then I get back to where I was living at the time because I was in so much shock.
13:39 I basically just said I'm fine.
13:42 Everything's good.
13:43 Everything's I didn't realize how hurt I was.
13:45 And so I get back home and then I recognize myself in the mirror that I'm covered in dirt from like head to toe.
13:53 And I was living with my uncle who's a physical therapist and he's like, what happened to you?
13:59 Like, what, what's going on?
14:01 And I was like, oh, I was in a car accident and he's like, oh, we need to get you to the hospital and, and, and so all this is happening and, and and it's like, it, it, this time just seems like in one way that it was completely stopped and another way it expanded because everything seemed, you know, so surreal basically and holographic.
14:20 But through the recovery process of what ended up being a very serious shoulder injury, separating my right ac joint and twisting my thoracic spine from the pushing up onto the car that I had terrible ptsd of the accident itself.
14:37 I would see the, the scene replay again and again and again in a nightmare much like when I was a little girl and had the recurring dreams and this time there didn't seem to be anything I could do to stop the dreams.
14:49 And one night, the dream always would change where the face of the driver would be different every time I would have a dream.
14:57 And one night it was my own face.
15:00 Wow.
15:00 Talk about a message.
15:02 Yeah.
15:02 And so when I saw that I was like, oh boy, there's something here.
15:09 And then, and then I remembered that voice that told me not to get in the car, that voice that told me to push up.
15:16 And I was like, wait, what else did I see?
15:19 Oh, I saw that, that stream of, of, of relationships, of, of, of unkindness that was like unintentional or intentional.
15:28 Like I wonder what that's about.
15:31 I wonder if I should write about this.
15:32 So then I began to journal and I started journaling and journaling and journaling.
15:37 And the first entry that I ever wrote was called The Instant is All there is.
15:43 And I wrote just almost not automatic writing because it was just really effortless and like gentle and there was no force to it or anything like that.
15:54 And I wasn't any kind of trance at all, but it was just this natural, almost like an exhale extension of something I was remembering and I wrote it down and then I closed the book and what I noticed was that I wasn't in as much physical pain and I was able to sleep better.
16:10 And so I kept doing that for a few months.
16:14 And then I finally felt like it was safe to share it with my mother.
16:20 And I told her that I've been doing this writing as part of my recovery from this crazy accident.
16:27 And I have a feeling I'm supposed to show it to you.
16:30 So I showed it to her.
16:32 Now, what I haven't said is my mom and my stepfather were a long time students and teachers of a thought system called A Course of Miracles.
16:41 And they had a weekly study group at my house, right?
16:45 And I again was trying to be normal and hide in plain sight.
16:50 And so the last thing I wanted to, any part of was to be in this quote unquote spiritual group with them or to know anything about the people that came to the house and I used to be like, mom, what do I say?
17:01 You do?
17:01 Like, you have people come and they, they talk about things and there's this blue book and what is this thing?
17:07 And she was like, you know, you don't need to believe one word of us and she's like, it's helpful to us and that's all that matters.
17:14 And, and, and so I never looked at it, never, never opened the book, never, never looked inside, had no interest in it whatsoever.
17:23 And yet here's where the twist of the story comes.
17:27 So my mom ends up showing my writings to a good friend of hers who's connected to the original teacher of a course of miracles.
17:35 Doctor Kenneth Wapnick.
17:37 And she shares with Ken my journal.
17:42 And about two months later, he calls me on the phone randomly.
17:46 I'm at my mom's house.
17:47 I was still recovering from the accident and everything like that.
17:50 And, and he calls and he says, hi, this is Ken Wick.
17:55 I'm a friend of your mom's and I was like, hi, how are you?
17:59 And he's like, he's like, he's like, are you the famous Nancy?
18:02 And I was like, I guess why am I famous?
18:06 And he's like, oh, I have your book here and I was like my book and he's like, yeah, your journal.
18:11 And I was like, oh, OK.
18:14 And he said, so what do you, what do you think about all this?
18:16 Like you know, it was very matter of fact.
18:17 And I, I said, well, you know, I'm not really sure, but I feel better when I do it when I write.
18:25 And he said, well, that's great.
18:27 And he said, do you ever feel like you have to write?
18:29 And I said, no, never.
18:31 It's always a choice and there's not any pressure, like I don't need to do it.
18:35 And he said, OK, he said, well, you don't have to trust me about this.
18:39 But if you do, I'm happy to guide you through this.
18:43 And I was like, oh, ok, sure, why not?
18:47 You know?
18:48 And, and he was like, one thing though, you must promise me that you don't read any other spiritual text, including of course, the miracles while you're writing.
18:59 And I was like, ok, sure, no problem, check that off.
19:04 And I'm not trying to do that anyway, you know.
19:06 So it was like, yep, good, good to go.
19:09 And, and so then he gave me like his personal phone number and he said that I could send in any of my entries that, you know, came up and then he would always talk to me and that just basically that I had somebody else that I could talk to about any of this and that there was no question I couldn't ask him.
19:24 And so I was like, OK, and I just trusted him implicitly, like, just from the get go.
19:29 And so then about six months after this, I was still journaling whenever I felt like I needed to.
19:34 My recovery was slowly coming around.
19:37 I wasn't having as many nightmares.
19:39 I was, you know, definitely feeling more, kind of here again and less, not here.
19:45 And the phone rang again and it was k and he said, hey, how are you?
19:50 And I was like, oh, I'm doing well and he said, have you been writing?
19:53 And I said, yeah, I sent you this one and that one and he's like, oh, yeah.
19:55 Yeah.
19:56 He said, so today is the day and I was like, today is the day, what do you need?
20:00 And he said, well, today is the day if you want, you can go and open that blue book that your mom has in the house.
20:07 And I was like, ok, and I said, well, where do I open up to?
20:12 And he's like, it doesn't matter, you'll know.
20:15 And so I held the book up and I just opened it up and I opened it to chapter 21 to the forgotten song, which is all about remembering our true self, our true identity that the word that this oneness, right?
20:31 And that we've never left home and that we have that little wisp of melody that we all carry with us and that anytime we choose, we can access it.
20:39 And as I was reading it, I was like, well, this is really interesting because it's very similar to what I've been writing.
20:45 And he said, yeah.
20:48 And he said, do you know why?
20:49 And I was like,, no.
20:51 And he said, well, because truth is true.
20:54 And he said you might be writing in a slightly different form and he said that it's the same truth.
21:00 And he said, so now that you've seen this, he's like, you might find that you really wanna learn more about it.
21:07 And he's like, and you might find that you wanna meet me.
21:10 And he said, so I'd love to invite you to one of my classes and come meet me in person and don't force anything.
21:17 Don't make a big deal about it.
21:19 Don't take it so seriously, but let this just come whenever it's helpful to you.
21:25 And that was the beginning of me getting to have my mentor, Ken Walk Nick as well as having a course of miracles, find me and really beginning an entirely different purposeful redirection in my life.
21:42 Wow.
21:43 Well, thank you so much for sharing, first of all, for your vulnerability.
21:48 You're an incredible storyteller and I'm 8.5 months pregnant.
21:52 Like you can't make me cry like that.
21:54 I'm like, I'm over here like tearing up when you're talking about the forgotten song.
21:59 But what an amazing story and, you know, I, I had so many thoughts along the way as you were talking, you know, you know, with your, with, with your life flashing before your eyes, but only those moments of unkindness, only those moments.
22:17 And it made me think about how oftentimes we, we get a lot of the same stories from N D E Survivors and a lot of what they share is that they've had that life review, but they see it from the other person's perspective.
22:30 Have you heard people sharing that?
22:32 I definitely have which is wild, right?
22:35 Because it's like you, you see how you made every single person feel in those instances.
22:41 So what do you think was the purpose in that moment of showing you all those instances?
22:49 Well, the purpose was for me to see that that was going to be in my classroom in life was looking at the power really of timeless kindness and that it's not so much about teaching kindness, but it's looking with kindness at the unkindness and being able to forgive ourselves and undo.
23:13 And so another story that I would add into the whole experience is that one of the snippets that I saw in that life review was an interaction between me and my best friend where I had told her that I wasn't going to be able to come to her wedding.
23:35 And that basically broke her heart by me saying that and the reason that I told her I couldn't come and that she saw through right away, right was because my feelings were hurt that she hadn't picked me instead of her sister, right?
23:57 The big ego,, to be her maid of honor.
24:01 And I just didn't get it.
24:05 I didn't have a sister.
24:06 She was the closest thing I'd ever had to a sister.
24:09 And so I thought that that was just a natural thing.
24:12 And so here she was asking me to be a bridesmaid and I was, like, slighted by it.
24:18 Right.
24:19 And so I took it personally, I, I took like that she was the first one of our group getting married, you know, all these other things and like leaving us basically.
24:28 and, and so, and then I also had all of this social anxiety about that.
24:35 If I wasn't going to be the maid of honor, then how was I going to have any importance or, you know, and then like, how was I gonna navigate it if I couldn't have the role basically that I was gonna hide behind of being busy as the maid of honor and having all this responsibility and everything to see that would keep me from interacting with others, right?
24:55 It would keep me from letting any of these new people that she was going to be marrying into and getting to know to potentially see the real me that I done such a good job of hiding.
25:06 And, and, and so I came up with this just bollocks excuse of why I couldn't come.
25:13 And it was awful.
25:14 But in the dream I saw her and I saw how heartbroken.
25:19 She was from me saying that.
25:21 And so when I got back after the accident and I was alive, basically, and I decided to send her an email and we hadn't spoken in a really long time.
25:35 And I basically said, you know, I was in this accident and I nearly died and this is what I saw and I, I just could never forgive myself if I went through my life without telling you how sorry I am.
25:50 And that, I wish I could have been a better friend that,, I, I don't expect you to forgive me, but if you find it in your heart to forgive me, I would just love to hear your voice again.
26:01 You know, like that you, you really are a sister to me and I was a terrible sister to you and, and, and I, I fully own my part in that, you know, something like that and I didn't hear anything back and I was like, ok, all right, this isn't about like me.
26:20 This is about, I was, I was, I was honest, I, I help, you know, I, I showed up, I owned up to everything and I guess it wasn't supposed to be any different and I let it go.
26:32 And then what was the craziest thing was about two weeks later, I'm back in my office at work where I was working at the time in sales development.
26:42 And pr and I'm sitting in my office and I'm like, typing on the computer.
26:47 And I had this office that was like a fish bowl because it was like, you could see through the windows.
26:51 But it was like, there was no window behind me.
26:53 I was actually interior building and, and I see your face and I'm like, what?
27:01 And she said she's like, I got your letter and she's like, I made all the arrangements.
27:07 I booked the travel, I didn't wanna tell you.
27:10 And I just knew that I had to see you and she walked into my office and we started over as though nothing had ever happened between us and we never, we never had another falling out like that ever again.
27:24 And, and it was such a testament and such a power of that when we are willing to see it all, we can heal it all.
27:31 And that when we're willing to be totally honest, but without guilt, like on a cosmic level that we can take ownership and not feel guilty too.
27:43 There's a big difference and that it was able to reignite that friendship.
27:52 And I, I, I still just can get chills here, you know, talking about it because it was so simple in so many ways and yet it was so profound and I never would have experienced that if I hadn't trusted that voice this time to send her that message.
28:14 What a beautiful story.
28:15 Thank you so much for sharing it.
28:17 And again, you, you're making me tear up as you're talking.
28:21 But it's also such a testament to the power of forgiveness, right?
28:26 And to the power of setting aside your own ego and just living authentically like from your heart, right?
28:34 And knowing that we're all human, we're, we're here to have human experiences.
28:38 We're gonna make mistakes, but being able to take responsibility and accountability and see your part in it, which is, is really hard, right?
28:46 To, to be able to objectively see the part that you played because we're all playing parts in everything, right?
28:53 And we all have these soul contracts with each other.
28:56 And yeah, and being able to forgive yourself too without guilt, like you said, that's, that's so so big.
29:05 Yeah, and everything else you shared was amazing too.
29:08 Like I was thinking as you were talking about how you were feeling less pain as you were journaling it, it was almost like you had all these emotions repressed in you and then you were able to release them and when you energetically release that you were letting go of the physical pain, like that's such a powerful lesson as well.
29:26 And I feel like we need to take a step back for a moment and just tell people what is a course in miracles.
29:33 If they're listening, have like no idea what this blue book you're talking about is because we all know at this point like you are phenomenal like your story is phenomenal.
29:44 What is this blue book that your parents were having these study groups over that, that was so profound.
29:53 Well, so of course, the miracles is a spiritual thought system that was Scribd through Doctor Helen Schuckman.
30:04 And she was a professor and you know, a psychologist basically at Columbia University and she and her colleague, William Thetford were working together, but they had many, many, many conflicts.
30:23 Their personalities didn't really gel.
30:25 They, you know, on the surface like they were definitely oil and water.
30:31 And yet they came to this place where one day Bill after all these, you know, conflicts and, and infighting and everything else with each other, he looked up at her and he said, there must be another way.
30:50 Hm.
30:52 And then she looked at him and she said, I don't know what that way is, but I will help you find it.
31:02 And that was the beginning.
31:03 Yeah, that was the beginning and, and then it wasn't that long after that, that she heard quote unquote the voice that said this is a course in miracles.
31:12 Please take notes.
31:14 And it was Helen described the experience as the voice as being beyond Jesus.
31:23 So it was beyond any specific words or you know, form, but it was coming through as this clear memory really of, of, of, of, of stream of continuity.
31:41 And she was able through knowing shorthand how to take down what she saw but it wasn't like she was in a trance or anything.
31:52 She could be doing everything around her like she could get on the subway and be taking down some dictation and then somebody would ask her a question and she pause and then she'd go right back to the dictation.
32:03 And what was really interesting is that she in form had so much resistance to everything.
32:10 Of course, in miracles was quote unquote teaching through her and yet she knew it completely and knew it.
32:17 So, so so well, she could quote any section and she correct you if you like read back the line incorrectly or anything like that, right?
32:25 But she had a lot of resistance to actually integrating it and living it in her life.
32:30 So there in came my teacher Ken, who played a role for her and Bill to take the material out of these huge binders of notebooks basically and put it into a readable, I guess you would say version in, in, in, in print.
32:50 And so they, they took all the notes down and then they, you know, they basically created like a line numbers for them.
32:57 So it's similar to the Bible that way and everything.
33:00 So the annotations are very, very, very helpful to be able to go through and refer to what you're looking at a section and everything else.
33:07 But ultimately, what of course, a miracle says is that everything that is timeless, everything that is eternal is what's real and everything that's not is not.
33:21 And it's that simple.
33:23 So it's like what's true is true and what's false is false.
33:26 And yet, because we have so many layers of complexity by choosing to forget the oneness that we really are.
33:35 We need all of this information to guide us through because the resistance from our ego, from that part of us that believes it is separate from that part of us that likes being separate, it would have way too much resistance.
33:52 If something was that simple, what's true is true and what's false is false.
33:56 And so Helen took down inscribed a manual for teachers, a workbook for students and then the original text as well.
34:07 And then she took down some additional pamphlets.
34:10 So she has like a song of prayer which describes like what's real prayer basically versus like the religious version of prayer that the world has described to.
34:20 There's also a manual and a pamphlet on psychotherapy, which isn't just for psychotherapists.
34:26 But she and Bill were psychologists as was Ken.
34:29 And so there was definitely going to be something within their own practicality, you know, that was going to be applying it.
34:36 But so basically, a course in miracles is a non dualistic thought system.
34:41 And so it is available as a self study to anyone who is willing to redefine their perspective and their perceptions in life.
34:56 And that's what a miracle literally is.
34:58 It's a shift in perception and it's not these like, you know, I don't know, phenomenal experiences like the world wants to talk about it can be but they're not self directed.
35:13 So a miracle is when you're willing to get your own ego and your own seeming self out of the way and make room for the real highest good to come in.
35:24 And it uses judeo-christian language and terminology, but it's really not the same as the way that the Bible would frame things.
35:35 And so when they talked about Jesus, it's not that he was the one son of God and the favored son and special and nobody else is like him.
35:45 It's more that he is an extension of the oneness that we all are as the sonship.
35:53 And that he's more like an elder brother who understands he's not his ego.
35:58 And so because of that, he can come in seeming form to speak to us and to encourage us and all these other things.
36:06 But basically, of course, in miracles comes down to that.
36:10 If you want to look at another way of going through your life without fear with more experiences of feeling connected rather than separate.
36:26 It is a way, not the way but one of 1000 different paths out there that can take you back to the place you actually never left.
36:39 What a beautiful description of it.
36:42 And I, I so appreciate hearing it from you.
36:46 And I actually told put some parts of the story that I didn't know.
36:49 I didn't know that Helen struggled to, to live it herself and I didn't know like this, the version I always heard was what was, what was the other man's name?
37:00 No, I forgot that.
37:02 Yeah, that he, he dictated they would like, meet early in the mornings he would type it all.
37:07 She would dictate from her journals.
37:09 He would type it all out.
37:10 But I had no idea about your mentor Ken that came in and kind of like was like, let me organize all of this for you.
37:17 So, so they had all these and that's what they would do is that she would write it down at night.
37:22 And then in the morning, they would meet secretly like locking doors and everything like that.
37:26 And he would type it up and, and then they had all these huge binders of, of the, of the, the, you know, dictation basically that she'd taken down.
37:34 And then when they met Ken, then they went through and they actually put the binder into more of like a print form.
37:43 And that's how they got connected with Judy Sketch and the foundation for inner piece and the original publishers of the course in Miracles.
37:51 And that's where some of the controversy arose too in the fact that they started sharing just with a few people the original manuscript.
38:01 And then later that would come back to kind of haunt them even though Jesus had said to get it copy written, to be sure to protect it.
38:10 They didn't think anyone was ever gonna read this.
38:12 They thought maybe five people, maybe 10.
38:16 And so they didn't do it.
38:17 It's like the one thing they didn't do that, the voice said because their own egos couldn't possibly grasp that this actually would have the impact and effect that it really did.
38:28 And so later on in his life can spend a lot of time fighting that lawsuit and ultimately lost because they were able to show that another copy had been, you know, put out into basically public distribution even though it was just within a small group of friends.
38:46 Oh, that's so disappointing to hear that there was a lawsuit about it.
38:52 And I love, I love the part that you said and I just want to highlight this for readers that there's this part in the introduction and it's like the famous part, right?
39:00 Like nothing real can be threatened.
39:02 Nothing unreal exists herein lies the peace of God.
39:05 And it even says like, like you said, this is all you need, right?
39:10 But because we're these human minds with these egos, right?
39:13 As Wayne Dyer calls it Earth Guide only we we need, I mean, the the book is thick, right?
39:19 It's like it goes to like 800 pages or something, right?
39:23 We need that much to to comprehend these lessons.
39:27 So you mentioned, you know, we, it, you know, it's channeled from Jesus and you mentioned that it, it talks in ways similar to the Christian Judea Bible.
39:39 And I'd love for you to just explain to listeners how is it different from the Bible?
39:45 Because it talks about a lot of the same stories, but from jesus' point of view, which is super interesting because the Bible is all from men's point of view, some thousands of years after Jesus had passed.
39:59 So it's, it's kind of like you're getting the, the version straight from, straight from his mouth.
40:04 So I'd love to, to just hear a little bit about that from you.
40:08 Yeah, it's really fascinating.
40:09 There's quite a few references where he will literally say I didn't say that or that didn't happen.
40:16 There's no way that this could have been or that people misconstrued the crucifixion itself.
40:23 It wasn't meant to be some special act that set him up heart.
40:28 It was more just to show that there are these extreme forms at time that, you know, our lives can, can take these different classrooms and that he basically had the crucifixion as his story to show us.
40:44 It wasn't necessary to do it again.
40:46 And yet we didn't take it that way.
40:48 We instead saw it as that.
40:50 Oh, this is an example of what I should live up to.
40:53 I should literally be crucifying myself.
40:56 I should be sacrificing.
40:57 I should be, you know, all of this, ignoring the resurrection, ignoring the fact that he was highlighting, there is no death that my body can have all these awful things happen to it.
41:10 And I still know this is not me.
41:13 I still know who my father is.
41:15 I still know who my source is and it's no different than you.
41:20 I am no different than you.
41:21 Please forgive me.
41:23 He says numerous times because we as a whole, right?
41:29 Actually resent him because he has this seeming special favor.
41:34 And so even though we say that we have special, you know, allegiance to him and that we are choosing him as our savior and all these things underneath it all, it's like reaction, formation and psychology.
41:46 It's actually the opposite where we loathe him, we resent him that he seems to be different than us that he has this specialness that we will never attain that only one son is favored.
42:02 And he said you took it all wrong.
42:04 There is only one son, but you're all the one son, everyone and everything past present future, there is no time.
42:11 Salvation isn't coming.
42:13 It's here now.
42:15 So you don't need to feel an urgency to fix this world, to change this world, to fix your own life.
42:23 And it doesn't mean that you get apathetic and you go, oh, it doesn't matter if I live, it doesn't matter if I pay my taxes, it doesn't matter blah da da da because that would be an unworthy form of denial because he would say you don't believe that for one second, you just took a breath, you believe you're a body, so don't deny it be kind to it, but use it in the form that it can be helpful, which is a communication device.
42:47 And you get to choose whose hand you're holding as your teacher.
42:52 When you're demonstrating through your body, the communication.
42:56 So are you holding on to the ego's hand?
42:58 Which means that you're aligning with sin, guilt, fear and taking the idea of separation seriously?
43:04 Or are you holding on to the Holy Spirit and Jesus instead, which is all the same right that you're holding on to that elder brother basically.
43:13 And you're saying there is no sin, there is no separation.
43:18 Let me see the sameness in you so that I remember the sameness in me where all are innocent or none are innocent.
43:25 And I don't need to have these heads on a platter of all these quote unquote guilty people that have made my life miserable, the diseases, the, you know, the the causes, the individuals, the the extra weight, the wrinkles, you know, all these things, right?
43:41 And it's not that we don't get to have our preferences.
43:44 It's just there's a difference between a preference and an investment coming from that.
43:50 If I'm invested in something being or not being a certain way, then I've given away my piece to that thing unfolding or not unfolding.
44:00 Whereas I have devalued then my ability as a decision maker to choose how I want to show up in this world and to choose who is my teacher that I'm following.
44:12 And what curriculum am I actually studying?
44:16 I love that so much.
44:18 And it's so, it's so so powerful and it's, it's so hard for most people to just wrap their minds around at first.
44:25 Like, wait, there is no sin.
44:27 We're all one.
44:28 But like you said, it's that shift in perspective, which is perfect for my book and my channel, it's called change your mind to change your reality.
44:36 But it's also the perfect with your story with your friend.
44:38 Like it's just that subtle shift and everything can change it, it completely changes your entire life.
44:46 Can you, can you talk a little bit about the Holy Spirit in ac I M like, what, what is the Holy Spirit as far as of course, in miracles is concerned?
44:55 Well, so the Holy Spirit is basically the highest version of you, right?
45:03 But it's the one that we don't believe is anything like us.
45:07 And so while we're going through kind of this la basically, if it doesn't really exist.
45:13 But but metaphorically this ladder of prayer, this ladder of awareness of undoing basically that we find it helpful to feel as though there is this figure, there is this presence that can see above the battleground.
45:31 Like of course, a miracle says that can see the whole picture that can see only through love, only through holiness.
45:38 And that basically this is the emissary of God that's here in this illusion.
45:45 So that the story goes that basically into eternity where all is one.
45:51 There crept a tiny mad idea in which the Son of God remembered not to laugh.
45:56 And what it remembered not to laugh about was the ego's idea of separation and of differentiation, right?
46:05 And so supposedly in the myth, right, that the course of miracles uses because it says it's always going to meet us where we believe we are.
46:14 So we believe that we're here separate.
46:15 We believe that we're these individual bodies and these individual brains reading this individual book, of course, in miracles.
46:22 So it's going to meet us in that same myth, right?
46:25 And yet it's also going to teach us the meta of what's really true.
46:30 So we're constantly having to kind of keep that in, in, in check.
46:34 And we want to be gentle with ourselves about this.
46:36 We don't want to be like, you know, forcing it on to ourselves and be like, well, I'm not a body.
46:41 So I don't know why I'm upset today or, you know, I'm pregnant right now and I'm having morning sickness and I'm not a body, what's wrong with me, right?
46:48 Because that would be unkind.
46:51 And if anything, I mean, Jesus is always kind and, and, and he is kindness and, and So, so, so there would be no point in using something that was here to say that all there is, is love, right?
47:09 And all these other things are just barriers and blocks to the remembrance of love's presence, to be used as a weapon of unkindness or of judgment.
47:19 And yet our ego wants to do that.
47:21 Our ego wants to spiritualize everything that we're reading in a course of miracles.
47:26 And it wants to put it into an earthly frame.
47:29 So it wants to create hierarchy.
47:32 It wants to have people be more enlightened and less enlightened.
47:36 It wants to say that if you do all the lessons, then that means you are healed, right?
47:43 And really the point of the workbook is to show us how much we don't wanna do the workbook and and and after we can look at that with that lightness like you just showed and that's actually doing the workbook, right?
48:02 It's not the lessons themselves.
48:04 It's remembering every time that you don't want to do the lesson or that you realize the whole day went by and oh my gosh, I didn't do the lesson.
48:11 But can you do that and not hate yourself?
48:14 Can you do that and not condemn yourself?
48:16 Can you do that and be holding on to that hand of the Holy Spirit?
48:20 So the Holy Spirit is the highest expression really of us.
48:25 It's the memory of our true self with a capital s that we are, but we all seemingly have forgotten in this world of illusion.
48:34 And so once we keep going up that proverbial ladder, basically within our awarenesses and choosing at the decision making level, then we get up to the top rung and we realize, oh, there's no separation between me and the Holy Spirit.
48:52 I don't mean me as Nancy, I mean me as the one son of God, there is no separation.
48:59 And so that is how it is different, right?
49:02 Than, than like the biblical version and everything like that too.
49:06 But it's, it can be helpful, especially when you're new with this material and practicing it to think about.
49:13 All right, I'm gonna turn this over to the Holy Spirit.
49:15 I'm going to invite the Holy Spirit into this experience, right?
49:20 But truthfully, we don't want to do that because if we bring the Holy Spirit or Jesus into the illusion, then it makes them just as insane as we are.
49:29 as instead if we bring all of our illusion and all of our make believe to the truth which doesn't move.
49:39 It's like that lighthouse is just fixed and shining, then that light that's always there dispels all of that seeming darkness.
49:48 And that's when we recognize it's actually just nothingness just, you know, in disguise of something.
49:56 I always, as I remember as I was reading it the first time I always thought of the Holy Spirit as our higher self.
50:03 And it even has the same initials, right?
50:05 Like the, like the, I, my husband bought me the books for Christmas one year and he didn't know that they were used and he was, he gave them to me and he was like, I'm so sorry, once they came, I realized they were used.
50:16 But I, it's amazing.
50:18 There's, they've been passed through, like six people and there's all these different notes and different handwriting and it's just, I feel like I'm part of this.
50:27 I don't know this like legacy from it, but I, I like one of them in there would always say like H S like any time he was referring to the Holy Spirit or she, and it always made me think of higher self.
50:38 So I always thought of it as that, that kind of part of us, that more vertical part of us that's connected with source connected with God and is also tethered to us here.
50:51 But yeah, everything you just said was so beautiful too and I'm, I'm trying to think of, I wanted to ask you about this one part and I'm trying to think of the word and I can't, I have like pregnancy brain so bad, but it's this idea.
51:06 It's, it's so real.
51:08 pregnancy brain is so wait, wait till you become mom and, and a mom brain, a mom brain is that to the nth degree.
51:15 I hate to tell you, sorry, I've actually seen on brain scans that your brain matter like shrinks it and then it grows back like six months later.
51:25 Drews out on that.
51:29 It's just downhill from here.
51:32 But you were talking, you touched on it a little bit of like this, this shining of the truth, this undoing of sins at the end where it's almost like that's, that was like the Holy Spirit rule or that was Jesus roles.
51:43 Like I'm gonna be there at the end to like undo all these sins.
51:47 And that's what this word is that in the Bible is like this big scary thing.
51:51 And I, I'm blanking on the word.
51:53 Do you know what I'm atonement?
51:55 Yes.
51:57 Yeah.
51:58 Thank you.
51:58 Thank you.
51:59 I knew I was like trying to Google it and I was like, I'm just gonna ask Nancy.
52:02 She, but I'd love for you to talk about that.
52:05 And how are you doing for time, by the way?
52:06 Because it's been an hour and I feel like I'm ok for, yeah, a little for a little bit longer.
52:12 Awesome.
52:13 Yeah.
52:13 So, so atonement is, is, is really remembering again, like I said, the simplicity of what's true is true and what's false is false.
52:23 And that what's true has always been true, will always be true, is always true.
52:29 And what's false is never true.
52:31 And really it's believing that ideas do not leave their source.
52:39 And that includes us as the idea in the mind of God as that one son.
52:45 And so since we never left the atonement principle being accepted is remembering, we're still that oneness joined as one and not taking the ego's idea of separation seriously.
52:58 Because if we take it seriously, if we try to analyze it and we go, well, how did this happen?
53:02 It's not really even a real question because once we ask, how did it happen, we make it real.
53:09 So instead we wanna look at what is the resistance to remembering to laugh at the idea, right?
53:20 And there's a big difference in that and that disarms the ego, but it doesn't go to war with the ego.
53:27 And so it doesn't make the ego be this big scary nightmare.
53:30 Instead it keeps it as a little tiny mouse that's trying to make itself look like a big lion and, and, and then you just very sweetly, you tickle it tenderly like Ken used to say, you smile at it sweetly and you giggle at it gently and you let it be.
53:45 You don't try to change it.
53:46 You don't have to go to war with it.
53:48 You don't have to annihilate it.
53:50 You don't have to be its best friend, but you don't judge it.
53:53 You just take it lightly.
53:57 I think that's so important because so often and especially in the spiritual community you see on social media, the ego is portrayed as this evil thing, but there's really no part of you that's broken, right?
54:07 Like we are perfect, full complete and we just tend to, to give the ego a bigger job than it's meant to have.
54:16 Right.
54:17 Well, yeah, and the ego actually loves it when we do that because the only thing that keeps the ego going is our belief in it.
54:25 So, so, so we would only analyze something that we believed in, right?
54:31 I mean, think about that you're gonna be a mom one day, you're gonna have your little one come up to you and tell you about his imaginary friend and he's gonna have all these stories about the things they did together.
54:42 Well, you're probably not gonna spend a ton of time on analyzing if those things are real and how those things came about and what kind of impact they had on the rest of his day.
54:54 You're just gonna go.
54:54 Oh That's nice, dear.
54:56 Glad you have a friend because you know, it's not real, right?
55:00 But if you thought, but this was somebody that you needed to pay attention to that could maybe be harmful to your child.
55:08 You would have a lot of questions.
55:10 You would go.
55:11 Well, where did you meet this person?
55:13 And where did you go?
55:14 And, and what did they say to you?
55:16 And do you remember everything they said to you?
55:19 And you know, you would get very, very, very analytical, you would take notes, you would gather other people, maybe you'd record it, right?
55:26 You would make a big deal about it because you took it seriously and you believed it was real.
55:31 So, so we, if we do that with our ego then we're doing exactly what it likes.
55:36 It wants us to seek and never find, it, wants us to follow it.
55:43 I'll keep you safe as it drives us off a cliff.
55:45 Right.
55:46 And, and, and, and all of that and it's not that it's this big scary monster, but we believe it is and it's our belief in it that keeps it going.
55:58 And so if we could just go, oh, all right.
56:01 That's my ego being an ego.
56:03 Yeah.
56:03 What does that have to do with me and go on?
56:07 Then we're not feeding into it.
56:10 We're not afraid of it, but we're also not trying to make it different because why would you try to make nothing be anything else than it already is?
56:19 You just recognize it and you go, oh, that's nothing and move on.
56:23 Yeah.
56:23 It's that idea of, of just being able to let things go right and to roll off and to, because that you hear so often, like, you know, you can either emotionally react to something or you can thoughtfully respond.
56:38 But really there's that third option.
56:39 Like you could just let it go.
56:41 You don't even have to respond.
56:42 You can, you can choose to just not engage.
56:46 Right.
56:47 Yeah, exactly.
56:48 And, and that's just, it is, you can make a cautious choice that.
56:53 Ok.
56:53 I'm seeing this.
56:54 I'm not denying it because that would be bypassing it, but I'm seeing it and I'm choosing to go forward.
57:02 Yeah, I'm choosing to let it go.
57:04 I'm choosing to go on.
57:05 I'm not even going to acknowledge it with a response because it's nothing.
57:11 But I did look at it first.
57:13 Right.
57:14 I didn't just bypass it and go.
57:16 I'm too afraid.
57:16 I can't see it.
57:17 Don't show me the news.
57:18 Don't anything.
57:18 I can't be a good course, a miracle student.
57:20 If I learn about the world right now, like no, don't give it that power, right?
57:26 Information is information, it's neutral until we interpret it.
57:31 So interpret it from a place of decision and from authority.
57:36 But without being authoritarian so well said, I love that so much.
57:41 So just one last question.
57:44 which kind of just piggybacks off of this, you know, if someone's listening to this and this is the first time they've ever heard of this and, you know, before, without having to like go open that book and, and read it all.
57:57 How do they start to apply these teachings into their life?
58:00 Like where do they even begin?
58:03 Well, so there is a book actually written by Ken, my teacher that is helpful, which is just an introduction to a course of miracles.
58:11 And it's a very, very, very thin paperback book.
58:14 And so if they just want to kind of get an idea of some of the, the underlying philosophy underneath of it that can be helpful, but you don't have to do that because the thing is, is that when you are studying any sort of spiritual thought system, but particularly this one, you want to still keep a lightness in your heart.
58:35 And so as you're going through it, we make it so serious.
58:39 Don't think you have to work at it, don't think that you need to be doing it perfectly right.
58:46 There is no perfection in the illusion.
58:48 It's impossible.
58:50 So the perfection is in undoing the illusion and remembering the perfection that always is right?
58:58 And that's, that's an eternity.
59:00 And so the more that you can give yourself grace, give yourself space when you're encountering conflict, when you butt up against something that you want to resist, just look at it, don't judge it and then to see how that feels and go.
59:21 Oh, ok.
59:21 Hm.
59:22 I wonder what that was for.
59:23 Get curious about it, not judgmental.
59:26 You know, really sit in that place of wonder.
59:28 You don't need to know what the outcome is.
59:32 And if you can do that in very small ways, then you can start to extend and expand that into maybe some of those bigger things too and notice in your relationships, what happens when you stop trying to manage them and you stop trying to manage another person and their responses and their reactions and you instead are fully present with them and that you are allowing them to be as they are without needing to think that you need to be any different either.
1:00:04 Right.
1:00:05 And it very well might be that you let them be who they are and you go, you know what, this isn't a good fit for me.
1:00:10 Set a boundary, you get out and you go meet somebody else or, you know, you have a new professional job or something like that that you're doing and all of that's fine.
1:00:20 But again, whose hand are you hold?
1:00:22 Holding as you're setting those boundaries?
1:00:24 Are you setting it as you hold on to the ego?
1:00:26 So you're like, oh here's more separation, I'm different than you.
1:00:30 You were different than me.
1:00:31 There's nothing we have in common.
1:00:32 We are so, so, so not the same or are you holding on to the Holy Spirit where you're saying?
1:00:37 OK, so I know beyond time and space and beyond form, you and I are one but inform I am choosing as a preference to not have this interaction right now and move on, you know, and you don't need to have the other person be any different and see what it's like to meet people without history.
1:01:03 Like start fresh with them every single time you see them.
1:01:07 And it is possible.
1:01:08 It really, really, really is, it's a choice and it can change things so profoundly from something just so simple.
1:01:19 I love that advice so much that is so profound, meet someone every time without history and just going back to what you were saying, you know, if you're, if you're holding the hand of ego, you also don't have to attack them, right?
1:01:32 Which is so often what we do, we get defensive, we attack, we place judgment, we place blame and we we don't have to do that, right?
1:01:42 We can respectfully just know that like you said, information is neutral, we have a perception, but we can choose to let people go with love or we can choose to not engage in that kind of way.
1:01:57 And that's such a powerful choice too.
1:01:59 Yeah, you can definitely agree to disagree.
1:02:02 And you can also say, what does this have to do with me?
1:02:06 And when you really know that again, salvation isn't coming, but it's here.
1:02:14 Now, then you can have a conversation with somebody about something that maybe you don't agree with or you can sit down and read a Bible verse with somebody that maybe you wouldn't normally have done or sit with them and have them open up the Torah or the Koran or anything else too.
1:02:30 And you know, you're not losing anything because you know who you are.
1:02:34 And you know that identity is bigger than any individual aspect of this body, right?
1:02:41 And so what can be really helpful is to remember this one lesson in a course of miracles, which is in my defenselessness, my safety lies.
1:02:50 And what that really means is that I know that I need do nothing other than not interfere in everything that is unfolding and happening on the highest good and for the highest remembrance of peace.
1:03:12 And that if he is not from here, then nothing here can give it to me and nothing here can take it away from me without my consent.
1:03:22 I love that.
1:03:23 That is a beautiful place to leave the conversation.
1:03:26 This has been so enlightening and like I said, I was looking forward to this episode for a while now and you had told me a little bit of your story before your story is so moving.
1:03:37 I love your perspective on everything.
1:03:40 I just appreciate you coming and taking the time to share all of this with everyone.
1:03:45 So thank you so much for being here and I would love if you could share with listeners how they can get in touch with you because I'm sure other people are inspired.
1:03:53 They want to work with you if you have offers.
1:03:55 Where are you on the, on the internet?
1:03:57 All the things.
1:03:59 All right.
1:03:59 Well, thank you so much, Kris.
1:04:01 I can be found at my main website which is Nancy Reed, NANCIREED.com.
1:04:09 That's the easiest way you can find me for my book, which is an award winning book now and I was just featured on the Big Jump boron.
1:04:18 Screen in Times Square.
1:04:20 So that was pretty remarkable and amazing.
1:04:23 You can see that as well on my book site, which is happily ever now book dot com.
1:04:30 And then you can also find me in the Facebook world under Nancy Reed.
1:04:34 Come say hi, send me a friend request.
1:04:36 Tell me where you heard from me and on this show and everything too.
1:04:40 And I will definitely say yes.
1:04:43 And I do have a free Facebook community for heart centered women that identify themselves as intuitive empath, spiritual.
1:04:54 You name it, right?
1:04:55 All the, all the things that bring us together and it's called Sparkle Circle.
1:05:01 And what I'm so excited about is that in February beginning, February 1st of 2024 in Sparkle Circle.
1:05:08 So you have to be a member in order to be participating in this.
1:05:13 But it's a free thing, it's a free community and it's not a challenge, it's an invitation, but this is an invitation to experience deliberate kindness through a project that I started originally in Los Angeles called 32 Favors about sharing kindness intentionally and deliberately on behalf of somebody else one favor a day for 32 days.
1:05:37 And there's a whole story behind that and you can catch my Facebook live that I have on my main page with everything about that as well.
1:05:45 And if you drop me a message at Nancy at Nancy Reed dot com, we can have a conversation as well and Yeah, I have a free gift right now that is called the Align With Love Self Healing gift set.
1:05:58 It's a 15 minute guided meditation that you can download and it's a recording so you can listen to it as many times as you want.
1:06:05 And then there's also seven days of self healing journaling prompts that are meant to be an extension from my book.
1:06:12 But really, they also can be stand alone and they're about asking yourself powerful questions with total kindness and curiosity and no judgment, amazing.
1:06:22 And all of those links are going to be in the show notes.
1:06:24 You sent them to me already.
1:06:26 So I have them.
1:06:26 So if you didn't get to write all that down listeners, it's all in the show notes.
1:06:31 Your, your Facebook group sounds amazing.
1:06:34 I'm gonna join it.
1:06:35 I'm gonna buy your book.
1:06:36 Everyone, go buy it.
1:06:38 Sounds amazing and I just appreciate you.
1:06:41 Thank you so much for everything you do in the world.
1:06:43 Thank you for being here with us tonight.
1:06:46 And if you're listening and this resonated, please like share, subscribe, send it to someone who you think could, could hear it, could use it.
1:06:55 And let's help spread all the good vibes around the world.
1:06:58 Thank you all so much.
1:06:59 Have a beautiful rest of your night.
1:07:01 Thank you.
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