0:03Hi, everyone.
0:03Welcome back to the Change Your Mind podcast.
0:06I'm your host Kris Ashley.
0:07And on our show, we explore the intersection between personal development, spirituality and science.
0:13And I'm excited we're going to talk all about essential oils today and blending science and spirituality, which really is my favorite thing to do.
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0:50Hi, I'mKris.
0:52When I was younger I went through trauma that caused me to feel broken and lost.
0:57But my life changed after I had a spiritual awakening.
1:00Since then, I've dedicated my life to studying and learning from masters all around the world that have helped me to create a life of fulfillment.
1:07And abundance beyond my wildest dreams.
1:10Now I'm dedicated to sharing everything I've learned so that you don't have to suffer for decades.
1:14Like I did, I've seen people's lives completely transform and I share it all right here.
1:22So with me today, I have Adora Winquist and Adora is a visionary in the field of quantum alchemy and a pioneer in the field of vibrational medicine and a aroma therapeutic healing referred to as one of the world's leading experts in the art and science of essential oil formation and energy healing.
1:44Adora intertwines the divine knowledge and ancient wisdom of esoteric philosophy, psychos, spiritual dynamics and vibrational medicine to her 20 plus years as a healer and educator.
1:56She holds numerous certifications including the renowned Barbara Brennan School of Healing and Rutgers University.
2:03I, you know, I didn't even read that until just now and I, I love Barbara Brennan's book.
2:07So Adora welcome.
2:10Thank you so much Kris.
2:12It's such a pleasure to be here with you today.
2:14Yeah.
2:14Yeah, totally.
2:15I'm excited.
2:16So, you know, I'd like to start by asking everyone the same question.
2:20What's your origin story?
2:21What led to your spiritual awakening?
2:24Hm Great question.
2:28I think like so many of us that find our path of pa passion and purpose in life, it comes through great transformation.
2:38And so my early childhood dynamics were heavy and it really brought me to a place of first feeling that heaviness within my body so acute and chronic anxiety, depression, feelings of anger or grief that I couldn't quite manage at a young age.
3:06And so I developed bronchitis, I was sick a lot as a child.
3:12And the bronchitis is actually what first brought me to herbal medicine.
3:15When I was about 18, I was away from home for the first time.
3:19I didn't have insurance and I didn't have a lot of money, but I'd heard about herbalism and I went out and bought a book in five different herbs and made my first tea and was amazed by how quickly I healed.
3:31And so that really brought me on the path of making teas and tinctures and working with herbal medicine for not just my own personal health challenges, but anyone in my circle that was not feeling quite 100% and was willing to take some of my concoctions.
3:49And of course, that brought me to essential oils and, and once I found the oils, I knew I was I hit something really unique because it just made my heart and soul sing.
4:04And then at that time, I also started studying energy medicine and this was back in the mid nineties.
4:11And so there weren't many modalities yet of energy healing, right?
4:16So Reiki was very common and I was blessed to be able to study with a John Harvey Gray who since passed.
4:24But he had learned directly in the oui method from Takata Iwata Takata.
4:31And so in my first Reiki receiving an activation when I got the atom and I started to see colors around people.
4:41And I thought, well, this is really incredible.
4:43I want to know more about this.
4:45And then I realized how an individual's emotions, how they were feeling made the colors change.
4:53And I thought, well, there's something here for me too.
4:56I could just feel it.
4:57So I started doing the Reiki on myself.
5:00And of course, and others too, and then I found that, well, what would happen if I started to infuse the essential oil formulas that I'm making with this healing energy of the Reiki.
5:14And, and it was incredible to see how malleable the essential oils were in that regard.
5:21And so that, of course, brought me deeper in my, my own path of healing and studying many different modalities.
5:28And then when I was 19, I started to feel quite unwell and I had a lot of challenges around my menstrual cycle and I was diagnosed with a stage four endometriosis, which meant I would have had it, you know, since I was in my early teens.
5:47And so that, that was really profound for me because after a number of surgeries and my MD, just, you know, giving me scripts for oxyCODONE for the pain and essentially saying, well, you know, you're a woman and you're really born to suffer.
6:04So here take this pain medication because this is probably in your head anyway.
6:08And let's, by the way, let's do a hysterectomy.
6:12And at this point, I was 21 and I realized, oh, I can't, I can't follow this path.
6:17I know that I'm here to have two Children.
6:21And so that was the moment that I really became more further entrenched on my path of spiritual awakening and healing and really bringing together these modalities from a vibrational perspective with the the plant medicine.
6:38And then of course, as you saw, you know, eventually I did find the Barbara Brennan school of healing and graduated from their four year program and also their instructor training a number of years ago, 20 years ago for the hands of light for the the four year program.
6:54So it's been a journey.
6:55Yeah.
6:56Thank you so much for sharing that.
6:57And I like to start out with people's origin stories because I like listeners to hear that, you know, everyone goes through challenging times, everyone goes through tragedy, tragedies and heartbreak and adversities in life.
7:11And we all have a choice, right?
7:14And the people that I end up having on my show made a choice to use their, their pain and their suffering as a launch pad for growth, right?
7:24They choose to see the lesson in everything, right?
7:28Because in every, every tragedy, every heartbreak there exists a hidden Easter egg.
7:33And once we find it tremendous healing, leveling up and growth takes place.
7:38And, and usually what leads to spiritual awakenings.
7:41For the most part is people just get to that point where they're like, I can't go down this path anymore.
7:47I have to re invent myself.
7:50So, you know, it's interesting like everyone's story is a little unique, but they're all really the same.
7:55And it's, it's interesting.
7:58Also, we've talked a lot on this show about how repressed emotions can lead to pain and illness.
8:04And again, your story just echoes that.
8:07So, thank you so much for sharing and for people who don't know, can you just talk a little bit about Barbara Brennan School and what you learned to do there?
8:15Oh, yes.
8:17So the Barbara Brennan School of Healing is really the premier global educational organization for Vibrational Medicine.
8:27And Doctor Barbara Ann Brennan, who passed away a year ago this month actually, or actually last month was an incredible pioneer and gave, you know, 40 years plus of contribution into the field with the numerous books you mentioned, you had maybe Hands of Light, her first book of Light.
8:49Yeah.
8:50Yeah.
8:50And she was a astrophysicist for NASA.
8:55And so she had an incredible foundation in science, right?
9:00Which for those of us in, in this field, professionally, the science piece is so important because it's really, no, it's not a different it's not a black or white.
9:14And compared to spirituality, right?
9:16Science and spirituality are really different sides of the same coin or different aspects of clarity, right, of the same principle.
9:25And so her wonderful foundation in science gave her a great deal of credibility.
9:33And then she had this inordinate gift for healing and vision.
9:38still to this day, I, you know, the intricacy and in her work that she was able to bring forth and put together in the school, which is a four year university that teaches vibrational healing through the human energy field.
9:57But with a tremendous focus on psychodynamics because we know that if we just look at the the aspect of spirituality, without looking at our psychological patterns, there can be also great distortion.
10:12So the school has a tremendous fundamental in anatomy and physiology and also a requirement for personal practice for every student each year.
10:26because of the depth that you go to in the program.
10:30Now when I went, and I guess this was like 2001, I had already had a healing practice for three years.
10:38So in my mind, I was going to the school to learn healing skills to be able to refine things like psychic surgery or you know, many different ener energy, energy clearings.
10:50And yet the first, the first week of the first year I realized, oh, this is so much more than that because the school is designed to really take you into the core of your wound.
11:03Yeah, you know, in the design to understand that you can only take your clients as far as you've gone in your own journey.
11:13I love that.
11:14So it's a four year very deep process that is incredibly transformative and has a just a wealth of very focused specific healing tools to use in a professional pra practice.
11:31So I, I can't say enough about the school.
11:34In fact, I still am connected every once a month.
11:38I offer free meditation in accordance in conjunction with the Barbara Bryan School of Healing.
11:43And we will read a piece of Barbara's poetry which is so beautiful, profound each month.
11:51And then I offer a guided healing with essential oils and crystal alchemy where anyone anywhere in the world can join in for free for that.
12:01Yeah, that's really awesome.
12:02So I used to run a yoga teacher training and we kind of said the same thing like you can't help your, you can only help your students as far as you've found yourself.
12:11And that is such an important piece.
12:12It's so important to turn the lens inwards and do that hard in her work.
12:17And thank you for sharing all that because I didn't really know much about her school and I'd love for you to just talk briefly because I, you know, my whole jam is backing all this up with science because we live in the most exciting time where, where science is literally backing up what spirituality and mystics and ancient civilizations have been saying for eons, right through quantum physics and epigenetics and neuroscience.
12:41And you mentioned astrophysics and I'd love to hear about how astrophysics backs up this vibrational energy healing.
12:49That's so fascinating to me.
12:51Well, I think that, you know, of course, here is the beauty and like you've just said so perfectly, we're at such a unique juncture of time and space, right?
13:01Where the research and leading edge curiosity is moving this entire field of alternative medicine forward by leaps and bounds or quantum leaps and bounds.
13:17Now, from the perspective of an astrophysicist that was Barbara's background, right?
13:24So that's how she came to the work from a very grounded scientific perspective.
13:30But it also brought her to a great place of curiosity in looking at the energy field, the auric field, right?
13:40Because that's the focus of the vibrational medicine that's taught through the school and how the bio field or aura has been measured from a scientific perspective through time.
13:54And of course, you know, when we look at everything from whether it's sound healing or looking at frequency, we know that everything is energy, right, all matter is energy at varying degrees of vibration and vibrating at different frequencies, right?
14:13And even some of the research that's coming out now with frequency and sound healing and the solfeggio frequencies in 528 in particular, with the ability to repair human DNA, like there is so much,, research that's being done, but from the perspective of astrophysicists, from Barbara's perspective, you know, that was her path that led in to me, that was the doorway that led her to bring her great scientific understanding and curiosity to a field that at that time, was wholly considered.
14:51Woo woo.
14:52Mhm.
14:55Yeah.
14:55Yeah, absolutely.
14:57I, I, you know, I'd love to just like hear more about that and read more about that and you know, you mentioned sound healing, which is also so amazing.
15:06And you said the 528 Hertz, which I think is the frequency of unconditional love if I'm not mistaken, right?
15:12Is that correct?
15:13It is the one that's associated with the heart chakra oftentimes it's associated with positive vibrations, right?
15:21Because it has such a beautiful resonance and early studies on it.
15:26You know, just bringing that tie back to, to, to show that it does have an effect on healing.
15:32Human DNA is really profound.
15:34Another incredible study that I saw recently was on.
15:40it was a TED talk actually.
15:42and a doctor that had been using 40 Hertz for his patients that had Alzheimer's depression and Parkinson's with some really astounding results of using protocols of only about three times a week, 20 minutes at a time to listen to this frequency.
16:06So to me, it's, it's really such an exciting time for someone like myself that has been in this field for decades and, and really seeing the turn of, oh, this is just, you know, woo, woo, it doesn't really have credibility to looking at all of these studies and especially, you know, when we start to talk about essential oils.
16:28it's truly remarkable what we are able to understand scientifically in a way that we've known those of us that have worked with the plants for a very long time.
16:41And even if you look back to texts, medical texts from the early 19 hundreds, they have a great emphasis on herbalism and homeopathy and using the plants in a way that, you know, many individuals today have said, oh no, it doesn't, you know, that's not real.
16:59But, but if we actually look back to these texts, we can see a great deal of healing prowess from the plant kingdom, from these natural medicines you're making me think about.
17:13So, in 2010, both of my parents had cancer at the same time.
17:17And I remember doing a lot of research and I found this documentary called Healing Cancer from the Inside out.
17:23What was really fascinating about it is it gave the history of the American Cancer Association, the American Medical Association.
17:30And way back in the day, there were these plant medicines that were healing people and they, and all of these other homeopathic and just natural practitioners that were really helping people and really making a difference in curing people.
17:47And as the American Cancer Association began to get bigger and have more footing all of these people and practices got kicked out of the country, right.
17:59They had to go down to Mexico, they had to go to Canada, they had to go to other places and, and now it's considered like super taboo or just it just kind of like BS, right?
18:12Because we believe so hardly in Western medicine, which really isn't curing people.
18:18It's, it's covering up symptoms.
18:20So it's really fascinating and I haven't thought about that in a long time, but talk to me about the science behind essential oils since you, you brought that up.
18:29Absolutely.
18:30I, I just want to say one thing though because I think it's important because you brought this up.
18:34I was recently speaking for a summit on healing through cancer, holistically holistic resources.
18:42And it inspired me to write an ebook that is available on the Soul Institute website.
18:48I think it's like 399 for a download, but we wouldn't turn anyone away that wanted the information.
18:54And basically, I go into the five pillars of modern alchemy of the Soul Institute and ways that people like through the Solfeggio frequencies like 174 Hertz for Pain using essential oils in a very accessible way like we're gonna talk about in a moment and using some of these self-love practices can really be such a profound adjunctive support, healing through the journey with cancer.
19:20So I just wanted to, to share that.
19:23Yeah.
19:23And, and at the end of the episode, you're gonna have a chance to share all of your links and everything too and we'll have them in the show notes, but I'd love to hear the science behind essential oils.
19:33Sure.
19:34So let's talk about the oils for a moment, right?
19:38Because I mean, I'm sure so many of your listeners have heard about essential oils have heard about lavender.
19:44It's one of the most common ones.
19:46So let's take lavender for example.
19:49So for each essential oil, now, the essential oil is the most potent form of plant medicine.
19:55It is both biochemically active and alchemically active.
20:00So what I mean by that from a biochemical perspective, each essential oil can have in the upwards of hundreds of chemical constituents.
20:09Those chemical constituents like the two primary ones for lavender are linol and linol acetate.
20:18Now, these two chemical constituents are what give lavender, that very calming and soothing effect through the nervous system.
20:29That's one of the the reasons that it's so beneficial for things like restfulness, relaxation, insomnia, and, et cetera.
20:36So the roots of the benefit of the essential oils come both from the chemical aspect, right.
20:44Because all of the chemical constituents have affinities for different parts of our body, whether it is anti-inflammatory or anti viral, antibacterial analgesic and so on.
20:59Even anti cancer, we can come back to that in a moment.
21:04But the essential oils are not just biochemically active because they also represent the quintessence of the plant and the vibrational patterning.
21:12And this is what makes the essential oil such an incredibly innovative holistic medicine for us to balance not just our body, right?
21:23Aches and pains or discomfort, but our emotions, our mental states and our spiritual connection.
21:30Now, the one thing and and this is what I am so passionate about.
21:34Kris is the use of essential oils via inhalation through olfaction.
21:40And here's why because of the proximity of the your nose to the brain, but specifically to the Amygdala and the limbic system that regulates so much of our physiology, mood, memory and emotion, in particular, when you inhale an essential oil, it can have an almost immediate effect on the brain and nervous system, right?
22:04So if you think about that for a moment in moments, when you're feeling down or overwhelmed or scattered, right or disconnected, when you smell the right essential oils in this regard, in the right formulation, it can shift how you feel in the moment.
22:23Now, if we take that a step further to say, if you build a healthy habit, practice around using the essential oils via inhalation, then you become able to shift the trajectory of your emotional response.
22:39So that means your habitual trigger points that have a domino effect if you will to an emotional response.
22:47Well, this is how you can have a tool of empowerment at your fingertips to transform that.
22:54And remember that the better that we feel in each moment, well, that creates a stepping stone effect to allow for the highest expression of who we are to surface.
23:04And that means better, more clear decisions, greater harmony in our relationships, greater love and how we care for ourselves and how we then ripple that out to the world and everything that we touch around us.
23:20Now, if that isn't enough of an incredible response or effect from the essential oils, we can also rep pattern at the neural level when we're using them via inhalation and we're harnessing the power of our intention, things like affirmation, right?
23:40And specific mindfulness practices that we can really transform the outcome of past trauma from the subconscious perspective to our cellular perspective.
23:56Yeah, that's really fascinating.
23:58That last part was making me think about how they say like if you, if you chew gum while you're studying for a test and then you chew that same gum while you're taking it, it, it helps you recall the answers.
24:10And in a way it, it, it makes sense if you're inhaling these scents and then when a trigger does happen, you're inhaling them again.
24:18It can like help elevate your mood and help move you past it.
24:22And it's really interesting because I was actually just going to ask you like, how do you use them?
24:25Do you put drops on your skin?
24:27Sounds like you only use them for inhalation, which is amazing because then your oils last forever.
24:31Right?
24:33Much longer.
24:34Well, a couple of ways and, and one thing I want to say to that because what you touched on is so important that because the limbic system is lock and key in its nature, if you are to smell an essential oil via inhalation before you study or before healing or before a meditation or a sacred intentional practice and then you do your practice or your study at the end of it, you smell that same oil again because you've opened, you've created a new memory cell and then you've closed it and then add to that memory a key, the key is smelling that same oil again, right?
25:13To unlock that intention, that information, that intelligence, that vibration, that frequency.
25:20Yeah.
25:20And that's interesting.
25:21I've also heard, I've heard similar things with like little little movements you can do.
25:26For example, like anytime you're feeling really joyful, like really, really joyful and you wanna lock that moment, you could do a little thing like maybe you just like scratch the inside of your palm with your finger or something and then you do it every time you start to feel that way and then eventually you'll be able to just turn it on yourself and, you know, it's a practice.
25:46I've tried doing myself and it, it actually works.
25:48So I can imagine, like the whole factory is so strong.
25:52Right.
25:52It's, it's sense that connect us back to memories.
25:56Right.
25:56So, I can imagine how that would even amplify it even more.
26:00It's so true.
26:01Do you think that people should buy these premixed formulations or you, are you more of an advocate of going for just like straight oils on their own?
26:10Well, I think it depends on the individual.
26:13Ok.
26:13There are individuals that love to make their own medicine to get the raw materials.
26:18Now, of course, this is where purity is paramount because this is an unregulated field and there is tremendous adulteration.
26:27So you need to know your source for sure.
26:31And for those people that like to make their own medicine that's beautiful.
26:34And many people like to have a pre deporte aromatherapy, right?
26:39Already ready to go diluted for them to use because although inhalation, yes, you can inhale it from the bottle.
26:47I'm the a an advocate for putting in drop, one drop on the palm of your hand.
26:52OK?
26:52And the reason why and in particular the left palm, which is your receptive side.
26:58But the palms of your hands like the soles of your feet are these incredible vor vortices, right?
27:03Like a chakra, the smaller one.
27:05And if you've ever tried, this is a great party game to,, peel a small clove of garlic and to rub it on the sole of your foot.
27:14And about a minute later you taste it on your breath.
27:16Why?
27:17Because it's entered your bloodstream, right?
27:20So, the essential oils when we use them this way, we're able to put it here to receive the biochemical and the alchemical aspects and then it makes it so easy to inhale here and all you need is one drop.
27:36Very cool.
27:37Yeah.
27:37You know, I know and, and essential oils really work for different things.
27:42Like I've, I've had, I used to have chronic headaches and I tried everything.
27:47I was going to acupuncture every week.
27:49I was going to a chiropractor every week.
27:51I was getting a go cue.
27:52I was doing all these things taking Advil and now all I do, I, I started to realize it was like very tied to emotion.
28:00So now all I do is I notice where there's stress in my body.
28:03I relax that stress and I use peppermint oil and it like, I, I like, I'm very liberal with the peppermint oil.
28:10Like it goes all over my neck and my, around my face and my head.
28:14But it's like the only thing that actually helps my chronic headaches.
28:17It's so beautiful.
28:19Yeah.
28:21Yeah.
28:21It's super medicinal.
28:23Yeah.
28:24Mint is a very potent analgesic, a wonderful anti-inflammatory and known for clearing,,, clearing the mind in that way.
28:38Which makes sense if, if the headaches come from a place of stress.
28:41Right.
28:42Exactly.
28:43Yeah, that, that actually makes me think.
28:45Are there a couple like starter oils for people that aren't?
28:50, yes, aren't like me with my little collection over there?
28:53I love your collection.
28:55That's beautiful.
28:56, yes, I would say.
28:58, we want to have one that's represented for Relaxation.
29:05lavender, of course, is a great one.
29:07It's also an excellent one to have in your kitchen for burns because it helps with skin cell re regeneration also as an anti-inflammatory if you burn yourself.
29:18So cuts and wounds, it's very handy and accessible.
29:24And I also like to recommend a citrus lemon is one of my favorites.
29:28It is so incredibly versatile.
29:31They did a study in Japan and many, many years ago where they piped lemon essential oil through the ventilation system of an office building and found that the staff there had a higher rate of productivity and less of a rate of errors through that process.
29:46So again, just really bringing in that kind of scientific aspect, but it wakes you up, right?
29:52The citrus and makes you more.
29:53Yes, it's so uplifting.
29:55So if you have a tendency to feel down, feel sluggish, right?
30:02Lemon is an excellent oil for upliftment.
30:07So we'd have one citrus, one flower and then something from the woods, the woods are wonderful because they help to provide strength and structure, right, which is so important for, for all of us from an emotional perspective, but also mental, mentally.
30:24, cedar wood is a wonderful aromatic.
30:28You know, sandalwood is very expensive these days and not as easy to come by.
30:34But the New Caledonian Caledonian sandalwood is wonderful and, a little bit more accessible.
30:43You can't really get Indian Sandalwood anymore because it's on the black market and not, not available.
30:50But if you like Sandalwood, rosewood is also another beautiful one.
30:56It, it's similar to lavender in its relaxing nature, but there's a strength there too.
31:02And if you can get that and sourced in a sustainable way and use it reverently, it becomes a wonderful oil too.
31:10So, what's the situation where someone might want to use one of the woodsy ones?
31:14So, for the wood as if maybe you don't feel like you're supported, maybe you don't feel like you have that structure that you need to organize, not just your day to day schedule but your mind in a way that feels like you can accomplish things, right?
31:32If we think of the, the trunk of the tree, right?
31:36What does it do?
31:37It transports energy from the earth up to the crown of the tree.
31:42And so it provides strength, right?
31:45And so for any, any time that you feel like, oh, wow, I'm really in a situation right now where I, I don't feel I have the, the foundational structure, the strength and the support I need to, to get through this.
31:59And you know, if you just imagine that, right, imagine inhaling a wood oil, you could feel yourself sitting or standing more upright of feeling that sense of strength of empowerment.
32:13Very cool.
32:14And is there any benefit to choosing an oil that just smells particularly good to you?
32:20Like you just feel drawn to?
32:22Yeah, absolutely.
32:24I mean, we there is enough in our day to day experience of life that can challenge our pleasure, right?
32:35Our joy, our happiness.
32:38So when we can find something that is naturally based, whether it's from a a spice like cinnamon or a fruit, like lemon or orange or a flower like lavender or yang or like one of the woods?
32:53And that smell brings you joy, then do the things that bring you joy because the more joyful you feel and each moment, the more empowered you feel to call to yourself your most abundant and authentic life because you are a vibrational being, you are a magnet, right?
33:13So it is up to all of us to tune our magnet in joyful ways, in harmonious ways, in loving ways, in ways that are grounded and still connected.
33:27I love that.
33:29What is the benefit of Pauli?
33:31Because that's the one that I'm always really drawn to.
33:33Like I love putting drops of it in the bathtub and it is such an incredible oil.
33:39I tell you just super quick.
33:41I fell in love with Paoli in a whole new way when I went to India about 20 some years ago on an aromatherapy trip.
33:47And we went to all the farms where the plants were grown and we went to one where there was Paoli.
33:53So, of course, I hadn't seen it before I picked it and started to rub the leaves together because the leaf is where the oil comes from.
34:00Right.
34:01And I was, what does it look like really quick?
34:03What does it look like?
34:05It looks like a very green leafy, fluffy, short and stout plant.
34:12You wouldn't think like, oh, this is puli at all.
34:15You would be absolutely surprised I can send you a picture after if you want to have it for your, I'm sure google it too.
34:23But I've just never thought about Paoli as anything but an essential oil.
34:27Yeah.
34:29Well, we, my friend and I were filled with such a state of euphoria that we laughed for a good hour of things where other individuals were looking at us going.
34:41What are they on?
34:42I want some of that.
34:44So there is such a presence of pleasure of joy.
34:48, puli is wonderful for the skin for aging skin.
34:53It is a cell regenerator.
34:55So it's wonderfully topically for insect bites, snake bites,, insect repellent if you make your own puli is excellent for that.
35:05But one of the most profound aspects from an emotional perspective is that it assists with anxiety.
35:12It calms soothes and balances anxiety.
35:15And so it, it makes you feel connected to the earth.
35:19And when you feel connected to the earth, you can feel connected to your body.
35:24That totally makes sense because like I was saying, I love putting drops in the bathtub and being in the water in and of itself is just so healing to me.
35:31It's just like it feels like it cleanses my aura.
35:33I don't know.
35:34I don't know if that's enough.
35:35That's the feeling I get.
35:37And it makes sense that like puli added to that.
35:40So is there any benefit in diffusing oils?
35:43How do you feel about diffusers?
35:45I like diffusers as long as it is a nebulizing diffuser with a timer on it because here's the rub.
35:54If you just have a diffuser going on all day, a, you're using a lot of a very precious resource and commodity.
36:02But b you can overwhelm your nervous system.
36:06You don't need to have it, have it on that long.
36:08So you can have it on for 20 minutes and then have it turn off for 15.
36:15And with the sorry, I was gonna say that makes sense because like when my husband and I run them, like sometimes we'll get headaches.
36:22It's like too much.
36:23It's like, oh my God can we just open all the windows right now and turn this off.
36:27Right.
36:28Right.
36:28Because remember and with the nebuli diffuser, you're getting the micro droplets of the essential oil, which is key because that is where we have the benefits of as an antidepressant, reducing anxiety inflammation, antiviral antibacterial antimicrobial and so many other ben biochemical benefits in that way in addition to them smelling, smelling good.
36:57Ok.
36:57That's really good to know.
36:59Ok.
36:59So right now I'm pregnant and all of my little essential oil bottles.
37:05I mostly use doterra and sage.
37:08I don't know how to pronounce sa I don't know how they pronounce it.
37:10Those are my brands that I usually go to, but all of them say don't use when pregnant.
37:15What are your thoughts?
37:17Well, of course, it's gonna say that because that's a disclaimer and for many individuals that don't have the educational level, that's an important disclaimer.
37:28And so what I always recommend for individuals that come to me and ask during pregnancy is you have to really connect with your practitioner because there are nuances to you, you're an individual, right?
37:44And that the gift of aromatherapy is that for each individual, there is an individual remedy and that is such a beautiful process, right?
37:53In the masterful formulation of a blend for an individual because there are nuances to your body, your process, whether you know many different variables.
38:06And so did so with that context.
38:09Context is key, right?
38:12With that caveat context is key.
38:14Did I use essential oils during my pregnancy?
38:17Yes, with both of them.
38:19So again, it depends on the level of purity of the essential oil quality and purity.
38:26It depends on the context of the individual.
38:28It depends on the delivery method and there are some, you know, oils like a sage, a Spanish sage Salvia fishy that you certainly wouldn't use,, under any circumstances in pregnancy.
38:44So, it really is individual specific and my advice is to consult your healthcare practitioner.
38:52So how do you figure out an individual's remedy when you work with them?
38:55, well, this is one of my favorite things to do.
39:00, so I usually whether, whether that client is coming to me for,, energy medicine and essential oils or just essential oils, we sit down either in person or on zoom and we go through an intake process and really look at a lot of different markers holistically from a physiological perspective.
39:23Of course, medications, health history to,, emotional patterning and to intention.
39:30What is your sacred intention?
39:32And for me in my process,, of course, you know, I've been formulating now for almost 30 years,, for individuals, but also for commercial, right?
39:43For many of the formulas I've created through past businesses and current have sold hundreds of thousands of bottles around the world of these blends.
39:52So, so it's really a process of sitting in sacred space before I blend for someone or for, to create an, an actual product for either my brand or someone else's brand.
40:07But there are many different intentions that come into the co creative process in that way.
40:12And it's really so beautiful because, you know, for me, then I'm able to sit in a sacred space and I hear right, seven drops of this oil, five drops of that oil.
40:23And it, it really is an alchemical process in that regard.
40:27Very cool.
40:29All right.
40:29So we're getting near the end.
40:31I'm gonna ask you, I, I, I like to ask people to either give something that listeners can take away or that I can take away just so that people can hear like, oh OK, this is like how this works.
40:41So here's my personal question before we kind of wrap it up.
40:45So I have been having really intense pain in the upper right of my abdomen, right on my wrist.
40:51They thought it was a gallbladder thing.
40:52All the gallbladder tests are clear and now they're just like, it's probably just like your inflammation between your muscles and your ribs.
41:00It's been going on for three months and it's getting progressively worse.
41:04What kind of essential oil would help me?
41:06.
41:09And so I would ask you specifically because you mentioned pregnancy, how far along you are?
41:14Seven months, 2828 weeks and five days Yeah.
41:19Oh, congratulations.
41:21It's been going on since the beginning of the second trimester.
41:23Thank you for the second trimester.
41:25Mhm.
41:27And have you ever had any liver issues before?
41:30So, they, that's what they thought.
41:32They thought it was gallbladder.
41:33So, they tested, they did an ultrasound on my gallbladder and liver.
41:37They, they did blood work.
41:40Everything looks fine.
41:42But the symptoms, when you look them up are like, identical, the gallbladder symptoms.
41:48Mhm.
41:48And what helps it is identical, the gallbladder.
41:50So, it's interesting.
41:51Hm.
41:53And I would also ask you feelings of frustration, resentment at all in this.
42:01Yeah, I know gallbladder and liver are associated with like anger, right.
42:04, oftentimes or frustration, resentment, resentment, building.
42:11I don't know.
42:12I don't know.
42:13Maybe, well, let's say yes.
42:15What would we, I'm really drawn to lemon for you.
42:20Lemon.
42:20Interesting.
42:21All right.
42:23And so, and what I would say is, you know, you could add a couple of drops to your bath, you know, maybe three drops to your bath, but put it into some, like coconut oil first because the citrus oils can be irritating for the skin.
42:38So if you mix it with some coconut oil or olive oil before you add it to the water.
42:42All right.
42:43, and when you feel that pain coming in, what I would say is to add a drop of lemon to the palm of your hand and just take a deep breath and as you're breathing in golden light to that part of your body.
42:57Really blessing that part in the listening.
43:01That's beautiful.
43:02So you're blessing and receiving through your breath.
43:06All right, I'll try that.
43:07Thank you.
43:08I appreciate it.
43:09Ok.
43:10So I'm sure listeners are dying to have a consultation with you at this point.
43:15So tell them what you're working on, how they can work with you, how they can find you online.
43:20All the information.
43:22Wonderful.
43:23Thank you, Kris.
43:24So my website is the Soul Institute dot C O.
43:29And there are many different ways to work with me, whether it's through having me make a custom formula with you or coming on as a client or even studying in the low frequency our modern alchemist certification program because the next cohort for that starts in January.
43:48I would say the best way is to pop on there and schedule a free 15 minute discovery session with me and then what we can do together is really find out what your desire is, your sacred intention, what you're looking for and how I can best serve you with the many tools of the institute.
44:07My new book will also be coming out in the spring of next year.
44:13The Love Frequency and Modern alchemy, this guide to thriving in sacred purpose.
44:19And I have a number of places where I'll be teaching next year like Kripalu in Massachusetts and Art of living in Boone.
44:27And I also take a group to Southern France every year to follow the footsteps of Mary Magdalene on a beautiful pilgrimage where I do ceremony every day for nine days with the group with the oils and the crystals and the frequency.
44:44That sounds lovely.
44:45Everyone go jump on that.
44:46All the links are gonna be in the show notes and you'll be able to find them really easily.
44:51So don't worry about writing it down if you're driving or can't get to your pen right now.
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45:21Have a beautiful rest of your day, everyone.
45:23Thank you, Adora for coming on today.
45:25Thank you, Kris.