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0:37 Hi, I'm Kris.
0:39 When I was younger I went through trauma that caused me to feel broken and lost.
0:44 But my life changed after I had a spiritual awakening.
0:47 Since then, I've dedicated my life to studying and learning from masters all around the world that have helped me to create a life of fulfillment and abundance beyond my wildest dreams.
0:56 Now I'm dedicated to sharing everything I've learned so that you don't have to suffer for decades.
1:01 Like I did, I've seen people's lives completely transform and I share it all right here.
1:09 So I'm really excited for my guests today.
1:11 My guest is Pauline mcguire and she is a Trailblazer in Multidimensional Sovereignty.
1:18 Author of who's holding the microphone.
1:21 A journey to physical energetic, mental and emotional sovereignty.
1:26 Pauline mcguire is a recognized master N LP practitioner, a master hypnotherapist, a master timeline therapist, a yoga teacher, a Reiki level two, an akashic records reader and master meditator.
1:40 Got a lot of masterful things in there.
1:43 So I'm excited to ask about some of those.
1:45 And when I, when the title master is, that's the title given to me.
1:48 Those aren't titles.
1:49 I claim they're like this is, this is what you've achieved.
1:52 Totally.
1:53 Yeah, I know, I know things like Reiki that's like the top level.
1:57 They give you the titles, but you don't totally, totally, totally understand.
2:04 OK, her journey from combating debilitating chronic illnesses to discovering her path to healing has been inspiring today.
2:13 She is not only fully recovered but also leads an exciting joyful and adventurous life in Mexico.
2:18 Her work transcends borders as she liberates individuals worldwide from the shackles that limit that imploring her unique modalities.
2:26 Pauline empowers her clients to live their most authentic and joyful expression.
2:30 Welcome, Pauline.
2:31 I'm so excited to have you.
2:33 Oh, it's my pleasure to be here.
2:34 Thank you for having me.
2:36 Absolutely.
2:37 So I I'm gonna start with the same question.
2:39 I start.
2:40 I I ask everyone is.
2:41 I want to hear what your origin story is.
2:43 And I was just telling you before we started recording, I love starting with origin stories because pretty much everyone has a similar theme and that's that some hardship, they went through some adversity, some challenge, some trauma, some heartbreak led to their awakening or led to them reinventing themselves or stepping onto the path they're meant to be on.
3:05 And I think it's so good for listeners to hear that if they are in a dark time right now, something really beautiful can come of it.
3:11 So please tell us what led you on this path.
3:18 So just in a nutshell, pretty much a lifetime of, of illness, discomfort like I, I didn't, I didn't know at the time what it was but never feeling, feeling always that something was wrong or off, never feeling kind of, I would, I would even say safe.
3:42 I don't think I ever felt safe.
3:44 Hm.
3:46 There was always this pervasive feeling that something was off or wrong and that, that things weren't the way they were, that the way things were is not the way they were meant to be.
3:56 That that was a, you know, so lots of illness, endometriosis age 11.
4:01 they wanted to do a hysterectomy on me at age 18 to give me some kind of quality of life.
4:06 I was being hospitalized every month I was told I would never have Children.
4:09 And then I went on to conceive naturally,,, back issues,, back surgery in my thirties,, with a severely herniated disc.
4:21 , I had lost, I had lost use of my left leg.
4:25 I had no, no control over my left leg.
4:27 I had nerve damage down to my toes and through kind of the surgery and working, doing the work, like doing the physiotherapy and everything I had regrown new neural networks, so regained all use of my leg.
4:42 And my first instance of spontaneous healing was there was AAA patch about the size of my cell phone on the back of my left thigh that I had no feeling in e every everywhere else I had, I had regained feeling and that was my first instance of spontaneous healing was when that healed.
5:03 And that was during my master N LP training.
5:06 And I, I, I felt it, I, I, I, I had set the intention that it was going to happen.
5:11 And then I was woken up in the middle of the night with this just burning sensation and, and that was, that was my first instance of spontaneous healing that I can recall.
5:23 You know, life just continued.
5:25 I was in a I was in a head on collision in 2013, neck, neck head and neck injuries and things spiraled really badly.
5:37 I couldn't get my head off the pillow.
5:39 I I was ended up being diagnosed with fibromyalgia.
5:46 And at that point in time, things were so low for me that the only hope I could see was getting the label and taking the medication and then you had an answer at least.
6:00 Right.
6:01 There was like something that I had some, I had something and I had some glimmer of hope and that's a pretty low bar.
6:10 Right when you're looking at a narcotic or, or whatever it is a pharmaceutical and, but that was what kept me going and got the, got the, got the label, got the prescription and I took the one dose and I ended up in the hospital, my body said absolutely not.
6:30 This is not what this is about.
6:33 And I, any control I had at that point was gone.
6:39 I was on the floor sobbing and I just did not know what to do.
6:42 I, I, I didn't give up but I gave in to whatever needed to happen.
6:50 If this, if that makes sense to you, it does.
6:53 And I, it's almost like a surrendering.
6:55 It sounds like it was, it was like, ok, I, I got nothing left.
6:59 I, I have no ideas left.
7:02 I have nothing left.
7:03 So whatever, wherever I'm going, I'm going.
7:07 And then very, very quickly my thoughts changed from, you know, I need this medicine or whatever it was.
7:15 I have no hope.
7:16 I don't know what to do to if my body is supposed to heal itself.
7:21 Why isn't it?
7:22 Hm.
7:22 Very strong, a strong guidance and,,, got set on that path.
7:35 So I would say that that was, that was probably the, the turning point.
7:40 , the, and started on a path of yoga.
7:46 , I had, they had sent me to a, an eight week course for fibromyalgia to learn how to live with it.
7:54 And,, the, the very first doctor who was presenting said, you know, fibromyalgia is when you exercise, it's painful, but it's not harmful.
8:05 And that's all I needed to know.
8:06 He's like, you've gotta, you've gotta keep going.
8:08 You've got to work, break through the cement.
8:10 And I did and, and I kept going from from there.
8:15 did my akashic records training, did my N LP practitioner training, which is when I realized my body was in survival, it didn't matter what I was doing with my thought processes.
8:25 My body was in survival.
8:26 Started to meditate, started to do my, I did my master level N LP training.
8:35 And then I went to my first meditation retreat which led me to start to do a 30 day walking meditation challenge at the beginning of January 20 20.
8:50 And within weeks of that, I got quite sick.
8:54 And what, what had been underlying a gluten sensitivity because I had been gluten free for years at this point was Crohn's.
9:03 Hm.
9:04 And did not know it was there.
9:07 And through, through a series of,, emotional and energetic clearings,, cleared, cleared The Crohn's in five days.
9:19 Wow.
9:20 Yes.
9:21 And that's autoimmune for listeners that don't know what that is.
9:24 Right.
9:25 That's ulcers in your,, your small bowel.
9:28 Ok.
9:29 And it's, it's, it can be, it's incredibly painful and debilitating.
9:36 So, that's a, that's a little bit of my, my, my story on, on, on how I got here and what I know is possible and,, it's just gotten better since then.
9:49 Now it's healing really old stuff really, you know, stuff that's not even, it's not even an illness.
9:55 It's just a, oh, there's, there must be some energy there because that's not aligned when you just said a moment ago that now it's so much better.
10:04 You just lit up into this like beautiful smile and it was like, I could see it just like radiating off of you.
10:10 You're throwing off shackles.
10:13 Yeah, because we're not, we're never meant to live like that.
10:17 And in my book, it shows you before and after pictures, it shows you when I did the walking meditation.
10:24 So I started with this 30 day walking meditation.
10:26 I ended up going for like 724 days of walking meditation.
10:32 Yes.
10:32 Wow.
10:33 Across three countries my whole life changed and I have pictures in the book that show at the beginning and what I look like now and you can tell it's a different person around day 400 of walking meditation.
10:50 Actually I won't go there yet.
10:52 So that, that's the, that's the history.
10:55 Yeah.
10:55 And thank you so much for sharing all of that.
10:57 That's, that's so much for one person to go through.
11:01 And you, you said something that I kind of, that kind of popped out at me.
11:06 You said we're never meant to live like this.
11:08 And I, I agree, you know, I think our bodies are perfect.
11:11 Whole, complete, lacking nothing always able to heal ourselves.
11:16 And illness is a sign that something's out of alignment or we're not on the path we're meant to be on or we have repressed emotions of some kind.
11:24 So what do you think was the spiritual purpose of going through all of that illness?
11:31 So what, what I know now is when when I started to do my akashic records training, that's when I first found out and in that modality, it's called soul shifting.
11:46 That's when I first found out about the concept that souls could shift, could, could switch the body, one soul could shift out of the body and another one could shift in.
12:03 So which I found fascinating.
12:07 It was not, that was never something in my awareness before.
12:12 And then all, then all my clients, the clients showing up were soul shifters, which was, was very cool.
12:24 So when I, so that was a, a very accepted normal thing, I ha I had never shown as one ever.
12:33 And can I ask how you, how someone shows this one?
12:39 So when I do an AKASHIC records reading, that's part of, that's part of what we do.
12:45 That's part of the protocol is finding out if they are monos souls.
12:50 So one soul in this body for this lifetime or more than one.
12:54 And then that's, that's at the very beginning of the reading.
12:57 So that if there's more than one, then the, the, the process and the protocol is different of identifying how many,, which one is in the body, you can only ever read the soul that's in the body.
13:09 , so that's, and in, in that modality, it's either a teaching contract where one soul teaches the other or a protection contract where one soul protects the other.
13:25 Hm.
13:26 So I knew about this.
13:27 All my clients were soul shifters and I had never shown as one ever, ever, doesn't matter who was, who was reading me.
13:35 Nobody I'd never shown.
13:38 So I start the walking meditation and the, the voices in my head are nasty and just awful abusive.
13:53 And I know enough, I know through my N LP that how you do.
13:58 One thing is how you do everything.
14:00 So if those voices were there in that instant, in that circumstance, those voices were are there all the time and that's what fueled me to, to overcome them and get going and it's like it was brutal and daunting and, but I knew that they, that whether I did the walking meditation or not, the, the voices were, were, were saying that.
14:28 So I started the walking meditation, kept going around Dave.
14:33 Things got amazing.
14:35 So much, so many amazing things happened.
14:40 However, there was also times where it was like a switch flipped and I could, I could see very distinct things happening and there was a very beautiful quiet little voice that was like you're doing so beautifully, just keep going.
15:03 And then other voices that are like, you're such an idiot.
15:06 Who do you think you are?
15:08 And there was this cast of characters.
15:11 Hm.
15:12 And I didn't know, you know, there is days I felt bipolar.
15:16 There's days I felt schizophrenic.
15:18 , and I would observe my behavior and I would have these amazing days where I'd be riding my bicycle and eating, you know, foods that I love.
15:31 There's like this one kale salad that I love and signing up for a course and those things light me up.
15:40 And then the next day I can't get out of bed and I've eaten six donuts.
15:47 Hm.
15:48 And I have no control.
15:50 None.
15:51 You know, everyone's like, oh, you're not trying hard enough.
15:53 I'm, I'm really freaking honest with myself, I had zero control over what was going on and things got really bad between day 400 day 500 of walking meditation.
16:05 That's what I was like.
16:05 Ok, I gotta do something about this.
16:06 I don't know what to do.
16:08 Fast forward.
16:09 Find a gentleman in Thailand that someone had sent me, one of his newsletter, emails and he deals with Watkins, which is another name for soul shifting.
16:24 And I'm just gonna quickly say here.
16:26 , so look at the, if you look at the body as a house with loins, the house can change owners so one owner can leave and another owner can commit when a soul is born into a body that's being, that's called being born in as opposed to walking in or you walk in at some point in time after birth was pretty desperate mess.
17:04 Emailed this guy booked the appointment with him and I sent him like an email with all of my puzzle pieces, all of the things I noticed, but I couldn't make sense of and I sent it to him and he responded back and he's like, oh, you are so getting messed with.
17:27 And he said, have you done my this clearing?
17:30 And I said no, because I've never shown as a walk in.
17:34 And he said, Pauline that clearing is to clear the interference, letting you see that you're a walk-in hmm.
17:42 And we had a 12 hour time difference and our appointment was like six or seven the next morning for me.
17:48 So that afternoon I did the clearing and it was like clouds parted.
17:52 I sat down in front of my computer and I did my data collection, which I've done for hundreds of clients.
18:00 And what I got was eight occupants.
18:03 So can there, can there be multiple souls in a body at once?
18:07 Like you had eight people in there?
18:09 There's never meant to be, it's only ever meant to be one out, one in.
18:14 Ok.
18:15 And that was, that was the world that I had been taught.
18:18 Never, never had anyone talked about there being more than one.
18:24 And so so we get on the ca I I email him the spreadsheet, we get on the call and he, he said, OK, I looked at your stuff.
18:36 He said you get eight, I get that you're nine looking at the other eight.
18:42 So this is, this isn't, this isn't interfered with walking and the in the the outgoing soul is kept, it's not kind of allowed to leave and interference then gets embodied.
19:04 So for with the first interfered with walk in you then have two souls and interference.
19:10 Can I, can I just interrupt and ask why would that happen?
19:13 Like what's the, what's the plan behind that walking in is a highly advanced technique for high dimensional souls, right?
19:27 You've, you've, you've done a few rounds on earth before you're using that method to incarnate in, in my model of the world.
19:35 The people that use that method to incarnate are here to affect positive change in the world, right?
19:41 That's what I've always heard too.
19:42 And oh, my whole body just broke up in goose bumps.
19:44 So that is a way of stopping it.
19:48 If, if you, if, if, if we can mess with your shift with your, with your walk in, you're essentially in a straitjacket because what happens is the body is only ever meant to have one soul in it.
20:02 And when there's more than one plus throw in whatever interference showed up, you have an energetic soup and it is a mind bend nothing.
20:17 It's like having one very clear signal going out and now you're interfering with it.
20:24 So even you don't, you know, you're not yourself.
20:29 So are these like evil entities coming in or are they just regular souls that have an agenda?
20:35 Like who, who are these people that are trying to stop these higher dimensional souls?
20:39 These are energies?
20:41 I don't look at anything as good or bad.
20:44 I look at it as what's their agenda, right?
20:50 So their agenda is you know, I mean, you can, you can look at many, many different things, you know, the agenda might be that to keep the status quo.
21:04 Well, we don't, we don't want change on the planet.
21:06 There's been a lot of effort put into making earth the way it is right now, which is never how it was intended to be, right?
21:16 So who's benefiting from earth being the way it is right now?
21:21 I can pretty much guarantee you those are the energies at play in interfering with walk-ins.
21:26 I don't name the energies until I'm actually working with a client.
21:30 , because there's, there can be a lot of fear packed around the names and guess who packed the fear around it.
21:38 They did.
21:39 Yeah.
21:40 So we don't look at it.
21:41 Religion.
21:42 Oh, my gosh.
21:43 Religion has packed so much fear.
21:44 , so I was,, at that point in time I believe there was seven occupants in the body.
21:56 We, we cleared, we did the clearings.
22:00 I slept for, I think five hours and I woke up and for the first time I could ever remember my head.
22:07 There was, there was quiet in my head.
22:10 I did not know that I had a committee in my head.
22:15 So now are you the soul that was meant to walk in that higher dimensional soul that's in your body right now that there have been shifts at since then.
22:29 So when you walk that path, so there's different kinds of shifts.
22:35 So if you look at the oversoul as a diamond, it's too big to fit in a body.
22:40 Right.
22:40 Right.
22:41 So a facet of that oversoul will come in.
22:45 I write about that.
22:46 I write about that in my book actually.
22:48 Do you?
22:49 All right, perfect.
22:50 So, so what can happen is, you know, the the oversoul sends in a facet and different types of shifts are that facet can leave and another facet comes in and you explore different different aspects of, of life or what, what can happen, which has been my last two shifts is an additional facet gets sent in for an expansion.
23:21 Hm.
23:22 So nothing leaves but it's, it's all your oversoul.
23:26 So there's, there's no, there's no issue.
23:29 So you can have a facet swap.
23:31 You can have a facet addition or, and many, many times it's because there's been interference that whole diamond says we can't, we can't have the experiences.
23:44 We came here to have the entire diamond leaves and a whole new diamond comes in.
23:49 And that's, that's when you're gonna see really drastic changes, you can see changes in eye color, sexual orientation.
23:57 my blood type changed that.
24:01 That's totally what one of my questions was like, I've always heard it's pieces of the same oversoul or the same.
24:06 I, I call it a higher self.
24:07 But, but that makes sense.
24:10 If there's a completely new oversoul coming in, there can be.
24:15 And that's what happened to me that when I, when I talked about that shift for me with the going from, you know, wanting the, the fibromyalgia meds to if my body is supposed to heal itself, why isn't it?
24:30 That was a new diamond.
24:31 Hm.
24:33 Because your thinking changed so much.
24:35 So I don't, I think I told you this on our preliminary call.
24:37 The, the book that led to my spiritual awakening in 2002 is called The Ancient Secret of The Flower of Life was written by a man named Dr Vow Melchizedek.
24:45 And he was a walk in.
24:47 And that was like my, when I had my spiritual awakening, when I was first introduced to all of this, I was introduced to walk ins and he, he almost died and he was laying in the hospital and his nephew was there and said something to him and he turned to him and he said, I'm sorry, your uncle is not here anymore.
25:03 Like that was like one of the first things he said, it gives me like goose bumps to think about.
25:07 Ok.
25:08 So do you, do you have the memories of all of these other souls who have occupied Pauline's life?
25:15 Do you like have Pauline's memories or are they, do, do you remember them through the lens of this new soul now?
25:22 So the these are some of the symptoms of being a walk in?
25:28 And so what happens is they, they fade and, and this is why it can be incredibly challenging for somebody especially and interfered with walk in even a, even a, even a walk in that hasn't had interference because let's say it's your birth family and you don't know you're a walking and suddenly you've got zero interest in these people, right?
26:00 And, and the world tells you it's your parents, you need to love them.
26:03 Oh, it's your siblings and you're just like they could be strangers on walking down the street and you could really beat yourself up.
26:12 Four, not having that connection with them if you didn't know.
26:19 Right.
26:20 , and usually there's a pain, a pain point or pain points in people's lives where I'll give you an example.
26:36 Somebody is just like, I, I just don't wanna be married to this person anymore.
26:45 I don't have feelings for them.
26:46 I don't have love for them.
26:49 And some, you know, that's, that's some clients who come to me and my first thing, my first question is, when's your birthday?
26:58 Hm.
26:59 And they tell me their birth date and here's the thing, 3 to 4 months before a shift which generally happens on the body birthday.
27:09 The natal birthday, 3 to 4 months before a shift.
27:12 You, you're gonna find a wrapping up.
27:14 , let's say one soul is leaving and another one's coming in believing soul is wrapping up.
27:22 If they were in a relationship, they're wrapping that relationship up.
27:25 Jobs are changing.
27:26 There's a preparation time that's happening.
27:29 Person may not know why they're doing it.
27:32 They just feel this calling that, that I, this is, it's over.
27:37 Yeah, and kind of cleaning up their own backyard before they leave because if they don't and many don't, many are interfered with and they don't do it.
27:51 Now you're gonna have another soul that's come, gonna come in and say, yeah, this marriage is done and it won't be done with there.
28:01 There's no relationship there.
28:03 It's like a stranger breaking up with your boyfriend for you.
28:06 They're not going to do it with the loving compassion that you, that you have.
28:12 Totally.
28:13 So I've also heard, I'm like, I'm a big fan of Dolores Cannon.
28:16 I don't know if you're familiar with her work.
28:18 So she talks about walk ins a little bit and when she talks about it, she says that sometimes the situation is that the soul that's here decides they don't want to be here anymore, right?
28:29 They, they want to tear up their contract.
28:31 They, they don't want to be on planet earth anymore.
28:34 It's too much for them.
28:35 They're, they're just for whatever reason, ready to go and sometimes a walk in will come in for that purpose because as she says, why waste a perfectly good body?
28:44 Yeah.
28:44 So do you see that happening too sometimes?
28:46 Absolutely.
28:48 Let's say, and this is what was the case in, in with me that you know, the the born in soul came in with an agenda, right?
28:59 This, this is, you know, my public planning, this is, this is what I came here to experience and then, then the family dynamics didn't allow that.
29:11 Hm.
29:12 And so says, well, I I I'm out and another, another soul comes in.
29:18 So yes, I completely agree with, with Dolores Cannon on that.
29:28 And then when you, when you look at what I see because the people that come to me, they have mu many, many embodied souls I average between 11 and 15 for the people that come to me.
29:45 Wow.
29:45 So when people come to you it's, they're dealing with the same issue that you had.
29:50 Exactly.
29:51 Exactly.
29:53 And,, so what's happened is that interference,, you know, a, a soul's come in and interference has taken over other souls come in and these are, I call them warrior souls because they've been through, they've been through some pretty rough stuff and the soul just is not viable, it's viable and they keep sending that facets in or to wake this all up.
30:22 Hm.
30:24 And that's the purpose.
30:27 That's exactly.
30:28 So when you've got someone who is relentlessly, like, they're gonna do anything, I'm here for a reason.
30:38 That's a big clue that you're walking.
30:42 That's a really big clue that you're, that you got walk in stuff going on.
30:46 Say that again.
30:47 Say that again.
30:48 If you feel like you're here for a bigger reason, you, yeah, you, you know, you're here for a reason, a big purpose but nothing's going right.
30:58 Ok.
31:00 And, and you're just like, this isn't the way it's supposed to be this.
31:03 You know, I've got, you've got this drive that's what drives many people to me is their, their soul is telling them something's wrong and they, they, they're like, well, why can't I find my purpose?
31:20 And it's really about what's blocking my purpose.
31:23 Hm.
31:24 , and it's this energetic soup in the body, which is, includes interference which does not have the body's interests or at heart.
31:35 So what ends up happening with multiple embodied occupants?
31:38 Is that the they end up time sharing the body?
31:43 So is it like, you know, it makes me think of multiple personality disorder?
31:48 Like, do you think that's misdiagnosed?
31:50 Oh, absolutely.
31:51 I know.
31:53 What was that show that just came out?
31:55 My gosh, it was based on a true story.
31:59 I'm gonna have to remember it, but it was like time sharing the same thing.
32:02 It was like throughout the day this kid and it was based on a true story, could be any one of these personalities and they would just rotate through depending on what he needed.
32:12 Yeah.
32:14 And like I myself knew there was times I questioned whether I was bipolar.
32:20 Yeah, whether I was schizophrenic, I knew I was depressed.
32:25 So you've got to look at it and the body, what the body does is it reflects the energy that's inside of it.
32:35 And let's say we'll, we'll talk about my case.
32:37 So there's like 77 souls and body, lot of interference and only one that wanted to be there.
32:46 So on the day or on the, on the times or let's let's let's break it down and just say, OK by day.
32:52 So on the days that the primary occupant, the one that's meant to be there was up front.
32:59 Life is good.
33:01 They wanna be there on the other days they don't wanna be there.
33:06 Get me out.
33:09 a, a huge symptom of, of interfered with Watkins is being suicidal, attempting suicide cutting because the occupants that were meant to leave in their paradigm.
33:25 The only way to get out is to kill the body.
33:29 That makes sense.
33:30 So when I hear things, like, you know, there's, you know, their life seemed to be fine and then, you know, they had their struggles but then one day they killed themselves.
33:43 I, my first question is who was holding the microphone that day?
33:47 Because the, the title of my book, who's holding the microphone is the euphemism for who was up front that day.
33:54 Yeah.
33:54 Who was making the choices and decisions in the life and in the body?
33:58 What was their agenda?
33:59 Did they want to get out?
34:01 Perfect.
34:01 I have the microphone today.
34:03 Boom.
34:05 Totally.
34:05 So OK, so question because I now I keep going back to this multiple personality thing and I looked it up really quick.
34:10 The crowded room is the name of that show for anyone that wants to watch it with Amanda Seyfried who I love.
34:16 So in that instance, and in a lot of instances with multiple personality disorder, you the the the souls don't remember or the original Born in Soul doesn't remember what goes on when other people are holding the microphone to use your terminology.
34:33 So is that the same thing that happens with walk-ins?
34:35 Like if if someone, if one of those other souls is holding the microphone and they do something really destructive, for example, and then the the born in soul comes back.
34:45 Do they have any memory of that?
34:47 Is there any recollection or is it just like this blacked out period of time in their life?
34:50 So, so everybody is in the body and the microphone is changing.
34:54 Mhm So my recollection of that was that as the primary occupant, the one that was meant to be there when decisions were being made by other occupants that were affecting me.
35:17 It was just this massive confusion of what is happening because you think it's you, you're not in awareness that it's not you, right?
35:26 And this world is very much of you need to take responsibility and you need to try harder and you need to figure it out and I was very much brainwashed into that.
35:38 And so you're kind of like, why am I doing this?
35:40 I didn't have any awareness that there was multiple occupants.
35:45 So I was, which was, which is the, the re you know, which was the the objective is I was caught in that vortex of confusion and misery sounds really scary like it is to be.
36:00 It is.
36:00 And I, and when we first started to talk and you would ask about my, my history, I said I felt very unsafe.
36:06 Yeah, incredibly unsafe.
36:08 And how could you feel, you know, there's what what a tremendous source of, of being unsafe when it's unsafe to be in your own body.
36:22 And there'd be times this before I, before I knew what was going on, but pretty close to when we were, when I was,, probably within the 4 to 500 days of walking meditation before I figured it out because we cleared me on day 500.
36:38 I was having a hard time staying in my body like it was like I was getting kicked out and I would be driving.
36:44 I remember one day in particular I was driving to my natural path and I knew I wasn't in my body.
36:50 I pulled my car over, I was in the middle median and I, I got out of my car and took my shoes off and I stood on the ground, stood on the grass to try and get back into my body.
37:01 What does that feel like to not be in your body?
37:03 What did that feel like in that moment?
37:06 It's this woozy, disconnected.
37:14 It's like there's a big barrier between you and your body, this wooziness, this like you, you just, it wasn't like I was looking at my body that it wasn't that at all.
37:30 It was just this wooziness and knowing that I wasn't in control.
37:33 Hm.
37:34 That I had that I, I wasn't the one driving the car quite literally and figuratively, right?
37:42 And to the point that, that I pulled over and in the, and, and got out and I was in the middle media and it wasn't like I had pulled off to the side.
37:51 It was like this has to stop now.
37:54 And,, I do find people come to me as well with that and, and it's like they're being kicked out of the body.
38:02 So how do you, how do you, or how does one go about clearing out these other souls?
38:07 Because that's the work you do now, right?
38:09 Helping other people do that?
38:10 Yes, that's the work I do now.
38:12 So it's addressing the interference that came in and orchestrated with, there's there can be different interference with each occupant you deal with, with each occupant as an individual.
38:27 OK.
38:27 What's, what's everything involved with occupant one?
38:30 What's everything involved with occupant two?
38:31 What's the interference?
38:33 And then, then it's about what, what, what agreements were made?
38:41 It's about breaking or satisfying the agreements so that the agreements no longer exist?
38:50 And then once, once those contracts are broken or satisfied, does the soul just kind of disperse?
38:57 And once, once, once, once it can.
39:01 So once the interference has been cleared, once the the agreements and contracts have been cleared, then it leaves the body and you can feel it leave.
39:09 The, the people can feel it leave.
39:11 I I because I hold that container, I can feel it leave.
39:18 So how many souls are in your body right now?
39:20 Are you just back down to 11, there's only ever meant to be one.
39:23 The body doesn't function.
39:24 Well, the body doesn't function when there's more than one.
39:28 And one of the biggest symptoms of interfere with Watkins is when you're having all these weird random illnesses.
39:37 And it's like the body is, the body manifests the energy that's in it.
39:43 And let's say you've got seven occupants, it's manifesting the potential illnesses of seven occupants and you've got six who don't wanna be there, severely depressed bodies manifesting depression.
39:59 That's, that's why things can shift like that.
40:04 Yeah, it makes me think about what I was saying way back in the beginning of this call.
40:08 I think before we even started about illness is often comes from repressed emotions or that we're not on our path or we're not meant to be doing what we're doing.
40:20 And then imagine that times seven, I can see how that would just be chaos happening.
40:25 Absolute chaos.
40:27 And so I talk to bodies.
40:30 That's, that's what I do.
40:32 That's because they, they know exact, the body knows exactly what's going on.
40:37 There's only ever two root causes of illness and one is emotional and one is energetic.
40:46 If unaddressed, it then becomes physical.
40:52 Yeah, I've heard that before.
40:53 It starts in your energy field.
40:54 It starts with your Yeah.
40:57 And I, yeah, I talk all the time about emotions for sure.
41:00 So you can look at Western Western medicine and it, which only deals with the physical, it's never physical, the, the body might adopt it if it's been around long enough.
41:15 So if you're not going after the root cause, which is emotional or energetic or both, then you're never going to heal a big part.
41:27 D doing the walk in clearings is one part, many of the people that come to me had their first interfered with walking and young childhood.
41:39 I was eight, the youngest person I had was four.
41:42 So now if you look at it, you've spent your whole life, coping and adapting to multiple occupants and embodied interference.
41:56 So, you know, the the the walking clearings take however many hours they take.
42:01 But what's even more important to me is the integration period, which is the clearing out of all the limiting decisions, beliefs clearing the body out of all that old stock stuff so that the body isn't being held into the past with all this stuck stuff and it can, it can, it can go, it can, it can frequently match to the primary occupant.
42:32 Does that stuff tend to linger around even after the other souls have left?
42:38 Yes, because there's be, I mean, you're, you're clearing out the energetic baggage, but then you have, you have all the emotions that the body that were trapped in the body, right?
42:50 The occupants take their stuff.
42:51 But then now the body experienced it all and you know, we're only ever meant to feeling emotion feel it, sit with it, let it transmute and change.
43:04 And when you are not allowed to do that, all that energy is stuck in the body, you've got to release.
43:09 It makes sense.
43:11 So the integration process to me is is, is so, so important.
43:19 And that's, that's what I specialize in as well is putting people in a container where with modalities and homework and to, to, to identify what are, what are all the limitations here.
43:40 Yeah, because some of it is just so subtle.
43:43 It's you just think it's who you are and one client and she's like, I'm, oh, I'm just a homebody and I, I mean that was a huge heavy for me.
43:53 That was just like, oh, that is so not the truth but she, she took that on as her identity.
44:00 So through the process it's, it's clearing all that stuff out.
44:06 So that how do you, how do you ever really know who you are then?
44:10 Right?
44:10 How do you, how do you know who your current current primary occupant is if is if you're still owning the stuff from previous occupants?
44:18 And like this, this diamond came in in November of 2020.
44:25 I own nothing before that.
44:26 It's not me.
44:28 Wow.
44:29 So it's this, this walk in for you is really recent.
44:33 This is when this diamond came in.
44:35 The the most recent facet edition was on my birthday about two weeks ago, three weeks ago So is there like a sense of feeling ungrounded if there's constantly this rotation of new souls coming in?
44:48 No, because for me, the facet additions, I've had them once a year.
44:57 So there is a sense that something's gonna happen and there's a sense of an integration period after.
45:05 But for me, this, this one, it was maybe a week I knew it was coming.
45:13 And it, it's when you're not aware, when you're not aware that you're a walk-in, when you're not aware that you have complications and what the world mirrors back to you is mental illness, not trying hard enough.
45:28 And and you start to own that, you start to think, well, maybe I'm not meant all these, all these visions and all these things.
45:37 I, all these images I'm shown of the life I'm meant to live.
45:42 Maybe I'm maybe I'm not supposed to have that almost like the world is gaslighting you the world.
45:49 Well, when you, when you, when you incarnate as a walk in with a purpose, you're already in a world that's gaslighting you.
45:58 Because one of one of my biggest challenges has been that very little in the world, reflex is, is even comfortable to look at or reflects who I am.
46:09 And that's because I'm here to change it.
46:12 Yeah.
46:12 Not to be part of it.
46:16 It's I and and part of my process has been walking my path thinking, honing my guidance so that it is so strong and I, and IC continuing to clear out my body so that I can, I have the strength to look at what's happening in the world because it's not, it's, it's not good.
46:40 It's not how it was ever meant to be and continuing to walk my path and say, but where are the walk ins?
46:51 Yeah, it reminds me of that quote that I've seen circulating on social media.
46:54 It's something like if you find that you don't belong in the world, it's because you're here to help create a new one.
47:00 Exactly.
47:01 Exactly.
47:02 And, and many people are like, they're, they're upset because they don't, they don't fit into the world.
47:08 Rejoice if you don't fit into the world because who wants to fit into what's happening now?
47:14 Right.
47:14 And if, if you don't fit in what it's for a reason, it's, it's, it's for a specific purpose but many, many people, they've tried so many things to find their purpose to, to feel some kind of feel somewhat ok in their body, to feel somewhat like, ok, just in life and they got really discouraged and then they'll hear about walking and something in their body and their soul will be like, that's for you.
47:51 Anyone listening to this.
47:53 And there's two, there's two, there's two ways it can happen.
47:57 One is,, that you just have a knowing that, oh my gosh, there's something there for you.
48:04 You could get goosebumps, you could get excited.
48:06 I I call it my cells dancing right?
48:08 When, when something is for me, my cells start dancing.
48:12 I like that.
48:13 The other, the other way it could happen is absolute rejection, anger dismissal.
48:23 And it's like, what is that?
48:24 That's garbage that, that there's no way.
48:27 What, what a crazy woman she is.
48:31 Well, I'm here to tell you that that reaction means you're in residence.
48:41 You may be in rejection of it, but you are in resonance with it.
48:46 I like that.
48:47 I like that perspective a lot.
48:48 And really it is the most exciting time to be alive right now, right?
48:52 The earth is splitting 3d and five D like you said, there's so many souls here.
48:57 I, I'm a volunteer.
48:59 You're walking, there's so many souls here that are here to help humanity and help the planet rise in consciousness and usher us into this new world.
49:08 So it's, you know, if, if you're, if you're feeling listeners like Pauline said that it's hard to look at what's going on in the world right now.
49:20 It's because you're meant to shift your attention to the five D, right?
49:24 But, but the, but it's trying to snare you in.
49:27 Oh Totally the fear, right?
49:29 It's, it's trying to keep you there.
49:34 And I know some people that, that walk their path by not paying any attention to it.
49:39 Fair enough.
49:39 That's, you know, for me, I, I, I watch what's going on to see where my triggers are.
49:53 I watch what's going on.
49:56 Not, I don't immerse myself in it by any means to also gauge where the, the global consciousness is at.
50:06 What, what's happening tells you where that if there had been any shifts in the global consciousness, I think that's really important what you said because you don't want to hide your head in the sand and pretend like these things aren't going on, but you don't want to be sucked into them, right?
50:20 You can use them for information and especially with your own triggers because everything is a mirror back to you, right?
50:26 That shows you where you need healing or where you're in resonance.
50:29 Yeah.
50:30 Right.
50:31 So if you, if you've truly healed something, you're not in resonance, you're not in resonance with it.
50:38 You said something just a second ago that I wanted to expand on.
50:46 I don't know what it was.
50:49 It's, it's OK.
50:50 I know.
50:51 I know we have a hard stop today.
50:53 So, you know, is there anything else you want to share before?
50:58 before I ask listeners or before I ask you to tell listeners how they can get a hold of you?
51:02 Yeah, I do.
51:03 What I wanna say is if this is in any way, resonating, resonating with you, you're not crazy.
51:10 This is your path.
51:13 What, to what extent?
51:14 I don't know.
51:17 But it's incumbent on you to act the system and the world as it is, is doing a tremendous job for what it was designed to do, which is to keep everybody in fear and inaction.
51:36 You have free will and when you choose to exert that intention is so powerful, but you have to take action.
51:48 You have to say I, I, I don't want this.
51:50 I, I didn't know what to do.
51:53 Keep trying, keep trying.
51:58 There are, yeah.
51:59 Yeah.
52:01 You're not crazy.
52:03 The world's crazy.
52:04 You're not.
52:06 And it's trying to tell you the opposite.
52:11 I think that's so important and I think that that message can go, it can touch people even if they're not experiencing these symptoms, even if there's something else going on.
52:21 You know, like take action, take responsibility for your own life, you have your own free will.
52:28 You know, I think that's a great message overall.
52:31 You're not responsible for the, for the shit show that's going on.
52:34 You're responsible for taking action to extricate yourself from it.
52:38 Yes.
52:40 Very important.
52:41 There's a quote on healing that I like.
52:43 That's similar to that.
52:44 It's like you're not responsible for what happened to you, but you solely 100% are responsible for your own healing.
52:50 Yeah.
52:50 Yeah.
52:50 You gotta change different actions, different behaviors.
52:53 If, if the world has you in inertia and victimhood in an and inaction then to get out of it, you need to take action and you need to gain momentum.
53:06 People say, well, I've tried that intention.
53:10 Yeah.
53:11 Attention you're only a victim if you choose to be one.
53:15 So I feel like we could chat forever, but I know we have a hard stop.
53:18 So, can you tell people how they can get in touch with you where they can find you?
53:22 Absolutely.
53:23 So my website is Pauline Maguire dot com.
53:29 So in terms of next steps, so you've heard this, you're in resonance with this information.
53:35 Go to my website I have, it's called an Energetic Free Will quiz.
53:41 Take the quiz.
53:43 It will give you a number from 0 to 21.
53:47 0 is you're not interfered with at all.
53:51 21 is you got walk in stuff going on and you have other interference stuff going on.
53:58 Take the quiz, it will give you a, it'll give you you, you'll get an email, it'll give you a rating.
54:06 You can be green, yellow, red or red alert with the quiz.
54:16 You will have the opportunity to book a free 20 minute call with me.
54:21 And when I say it's free, it's free.
54:22 There's absolutely no obligation.
54:24 I will use that 20 minutes to answer any questions that you have and give you your next step.
54:32 Well, that sounds like a pretty amazing deal.
54:35 And everyone, if you're resonating with us, I hope you jump on it.
54:39 I'm gonna go take the quiz.
54:41 I don't think I have a walk in, but it just, it sounds like an interesting thing to do.
54:45 So all the links will be in the show notes, so you'll be able to find them there.
54:49 And thank you so much for everyone for tuning in.
54:52 Check out the show notes for links to my work as well.
54:55 My book, change your mind and change your reality.
54:57 Check out Pauline's book as well.
54:59 Yes, my book is on my website as well.
55:01 Yeah.
55:01 Sorry, I forgot that it's ok.
55:04 And then please like share, subscribe.
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55:08 @changeyourmindwithKris is my handle just like it is on here.
55:11 Have a beautiful rest of your day everyone.
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