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0:37Hi, I'm Kris.
0:39When I was younger I went through trauma that caused me to feel broken and lost.
0:44But my life changed after I had a spiritual awakening.
0:47Since then, I've dedicated my life to studying and learning from masters all around the world that have helped me to create a life of fulfillment and abundance beyond my wildest dreams.
0:56Now I'm dedicated to sharing everything I've learned so that you don't have to suffer for decades.
1:01Like I did, I've seen people's lives completely transform and I share it all right here.
1:09So I'm really excited for my guests today.
1:11My guest is Pauline mcguire and she is a Trailblazer in Multidimensional Sovereignty.
1:18Author of who's holding the microphone.
1:21A journey to physical energetic, mental and emotional sovereignty.
1:26Pauline mcguire is a recognized master N LP practitioner, a master hypnotherapist, a master timeline therapist, a yoga teacher, a Reiki level two, an akashic records reader and master meditator.
1:40Got a lot of masterful things in there.
1:43So I'm excited to ask about some of those.
1:45And when I, when the title master is, that's the title given to me.
1:48Those aren't titles.
1:49I claim they're like this is, this is what you've achieved.
1:52Totally.
1:53Yeah, I know, I know things like Reiki that's like the top level.
1:57They give you the titles, but you don't totally, totally, totally understand.
2:04OK, her journey from combating debilitating chronic illnesses to discovering her path to healing has been inspiring today.
2:13She is not only fully recovered but also leads an exciting joyful and adventurous life in Mexico.
2:18Her work transcends borders as she liberates individuals worldwide from the shackles that limit that imploring her unique modalities.
2:26Pauline empowers her clients to live their most authentic and joyful expression.
2:30Welcome, Pauline.
2:31I'm so excited to have you.
2:33Oh, it's my pleasure to be here.
2:34Thank you for having me.
2:36Absolutely.
2:37So I I'm gonna start with the same question.
2:39I start.
2:40I I ask everyone is.
2:41I want to hear what your origin story is.
2:43And I was just telling you before we started recording, I love starting with origin stories because pretty much everyone has a similar theme and that's that some hardship, they went through some adversity, some challenge, some trauma, some heartbreak led to their awakening or led to them reinventing themselves or stepping onto the path they're meant to be on.
3:05And I think it's so good for listeners to hear that if they are in a dark time right now, something really beautiful can come of it.
3:11So please tell us what led you on this path.
3:18So just in a nutshell, pretty much a lifetime of, of illness, discomfort like I, I didn't, I didn't know at the time what it was but never feeling, feeling always that something was wrong or off, never feeling kind of, I would, I would even say safe.
3:42I don't think I ever felt safe.
3:44Hm.
3:46There was always this pervasive feeling that something was off or wrong and that, that things weren't the way they were, that the way things were is not the way they were meant to be.
3:56That that was a, you know, so lots of illness, endometriosis age 11.
4:01they wanted to do a hysterectomy on me at age 18 to give me some kind of quality of life.
4:06I was being hospitalized every month I was told I would never have Children.
4:09And then I went on to conceive naturally,,, back issues,, back surgery in my thirties,, with a severely herniated disc.
4:21, I had lost, I had lost use of my left leg.
4:25I had no, no control over my left leg.
4:27I had nerve damage down to my toes and through kind of the surgery and working, doing the work, like doing the physiotherapy and everything I had regrown new neural networks, so regained all use of my leg.
4:42And my first instance of spontaneous healing was there was AAA patch about the size of my cell phone on the back of my left thigh that I had no feeling in e every everywhere else I had, I had regained feeling and that was my first instance of spontaneous healing was when that healed.
5:03And that was during my master N LP training.
5:06And I, I, I felt it, I, I, I, I had set the intention that it was going to happen.
5:11And then I was woken up in the middle of the night with this just burning sensation and, and that was, that was my first instance of spontaneous healing that I can recall.
5:23You know, life just continued.
5:25I was in a I was in a head on collision in 2013, neck, neck head and neck injuries and things spiraled really badly.
5:37I couldn't get my head off the pillow.
5:39I I was ended up being diagnosed with fibromyalgia.
5:46And at that point in time, things were so low for me that the only hope I could see was getting the label and taking the medication and then you had an answer at least.
6:00Right.
6:01There was like something that I had some, I had something and I had some glimmer of hope and that's a pretty low bar.
6:10Right when you're looking at a narcotic or, or whatever it is a pharmaceutical and, but that was what kept me going and got the, got the, got the label, got the prescription and I took the one dose and I ended up in the hospital, my body said absolutely not.
6:30This is not what this is about.
6:33And I, any control I had at that point was gone.
6:39I was on the floor sobbing and I just did not know what to do.
6:42I, I, I didn't give up but I gave in to whatever needed to happen.
6:50If this, if that makes sense to you, it does.
6:53And I, it's almost like a surrendering.
6:55It sounds like it was, it was like, ok, I, I got nothing left.
6:59I, I have no ideas left.
7:02I have nothing left.
7:03So whatever, wherever I'm going, I'm going.
7:07And then very, very quickly my thoughts changed from, you know, I need this medicine or whatever it was.
7:15I have no hope.
7:16I don't know what to do to if my body is supposed to heal itself.
7:21Why isn't it?
7:22Hm.
7:22Very strong, a strong guidance and,,, got set on that path.
7:35So I would say that that was, that was probably the, the turning point.
7:40, the, and started on a path of yoga.
7:46, I had, they had sent me to a, an eight week course for fibromyalgia to learn how to live with it.
7:54And,, the, the very first doctor who was presenting said, you know, fibromyalgia is when you exercise, it's painful, but it's not harmful.
8:05And that's all I needed to know.
8:06He's like, you've gotta, you've gotta keep going.
8:08You've got to work, break through the cement.
8:10And I did and, and I kept going from from there.
8:15did my akashic records training, did my N LP practitioner training, which is when I realized my body was in survival, it didn't matter what I was doing with my thought processes.
8:25My body was in survival.
8:26Started to meditate, started to do my, I did my master level N LP training.
8:35And then I went to my first meditation retreat which led me to start to do a 30 day walking meditation challenge at the beginning of January 20 20.
8:50And within weeks of that, I got quite sick.
8:54And what, what had been underlying a gluten sensitivity because I had been gluten free for years at this point was Crohn's.
9:03Hm.
9:04And did not know it was there.
9:07And through, through a series of,, emotional and energetic clearings,, cleared, cleared The Crohn's in five days.
9:19Wow.
9:20Yes.
9:21And that's autoimmune for listeners that don't know what that is.
9:24Right.
9:25That's ulcers in your,, your small bowel.
9:28Ok.
9:29And it's, it's, it can be, it's incredibly painful and debilitating.
9:36So, that's a, that's a little bit of my, my, my story on, on, on how I got here and what I know is possible and,, it's just gotten better since then.
9:49Now it's healing really old stuff really, you know, stuff that's not even, it's not even an illness.
9:55It's just a, oh, there's, there must be some energy there because that's not aligned when you just said a moment ago that now it's so much better.
10:04You just lit up into this like beautiful smile and it was like, I could see it just like radiating off of you.
10:10You're throwing off shackles.
10:13Yeah, because we're not, we're never meant to live like that.
10:17And in my book, it shows you before and after pictures, it shows you when I did the walking meditation.
10:24So I started with this 30 day walking meditation.
10:26I ended up going for like 724 days of walking meditation.
10:32Yes.
10:32Wow.
10:33Across three countries my whole life changed and I have pictures in the book that show at the beginning and what I look like now and you can tell it's a different person around day 400 of walking meditation.
10:50Actually I won't go there yet.
10:52So that, that's the, that's the history.
10:55Yeah.
10:55And thank you so much for sharing all of that.
10:57That's, that's so much for one person to go through.
11:01And you, you said something that I kind of, that kind of popped out at me.
11:06You said we're never meant to live like this.
11:08And I, I agree, you know, I think our bodies are perfect.
11:11Whole, complete, lacking nothing always able to heal ourselves.
11:16And illness is a sign that something's out of alignment or we're not on the path we're meant to be on or we have repressed emotions of some kind.
11:24So what do you think was the spiritual purpose of going through all of that illness?
11:31So what, what I know now is when when I started to do my akashic records training, that's when I first found out and in that modality, it's called soul shifting.
11:46That's when I first found out about the concept that souls could shift, could, could switch the body, one soul could shift out of the body and another one could shift in.
12:03So which I found fascinating.
12:07It was not, that was never something in my awareness before.
12:12And then all, then all my clients, the clients showing up were soul shifters, which was, was very cool.
12:24So when I, so that was a, a very accepted normal thing, I ha I had never shown as one ever.
12:33And can I ask how you, how someone shows this one?
12:39So when I do an AKASHIC records reading, that's part of, that's part of what we do.
12:45That's part of the protocol is finding out if they are monos souls.
12:50So one soul in this body for this lifetime or more than one.
12:54And then that's, that's at the very beginning of the reading.
12:57So that if there's more than one, then the, the, the process and the protocol is different of identifying how many,, which one is in the body, you can only ever read the soul that's in the body.
13:09, so that's, and in, in that modality, it's either a teaching contract where one soul teaches the other or a protection contract where one soul protects the other.
13:25Hm.
13:26So I knew about this.
13:27All my clients were soul shifters and I had never shown as one ever, ever, doesn't matter who was, who was reading me.
13:35Nobody I'd never shown.
13:38So I start the walking meditation and the, the voices in my head are nasty and just awful abusive.
13:53And I know enough, I know through my N LP that how you do.
13:58One thing is how you do everything.
14:00So if those voices were there in that instant, in that circumstance, those voices were are there all the time and that's what fueled me to, to overcome them and get going and it's like it was brutal and daunting and, but I knew that they, that whether I did the walking meditation or not, the, the voices were, were, were saying that.
14:28So I started the walking meditation, kept going around Dave.
14:33Things got amazing.
14:35So much, so many amazing things happened.
14:40However, there was also times where it was like a switch flipped and I could, I could see very distinct things happening and there was a very beautiful quiet little voice that was like you're doing so beautifully, just keep going.
15:03And then other voices that are like, you're such an idiot.
15:06Who do you think you are?
15:08And there was this cast of characters.
15:11Hm.
15:12And I didn't know, you know, there is days I felt bipolar.
15:16There's days I felt schizophrenic.
15:18, and I would observe my behavior and I would have these amazing days where I'd be riding my bicycle and eating, you know, foods that I love.
15:31There's like this one kale salad that I love and signing up for a course and those things light me up.
15:40And then the next day I can't get out of bed and I've eaten six donuts.
15:47Hm.
15:48And I have no control.
15:50None.
15:51You know, everyone's like, oh, you're not trying hard enough.
15:53I'm, I'm really freaking honest with myself, I had zero control over what was going on and things got really bad between day 400 day 500 of walking meditation.
16:05That's what I was like.
16:05Ok, I gotta do something about this.
16:06I don't know what to do.
16:08Fast forward.
16:09Find a gentleman in Thailand that someone had sent me, one of his newsletter, emails and he deals with Watkins, which is another name for soul shifting.
16:24And I'm just gonna quickly say here.
16:26, so look at the, if you look at the body as a house with loins, the house can change owners so one owner can leave and another owner can commit when a soul is born into a body that's being, that's called being born in as opposed to walking in or you walk in at some point in time after birth was pretty desperate mess.
17:04Emailed this guy booked the appointment with him and I sent him like an email with all of my puzzle pieces, all of the things I noticed, but I couldn't make sense of and I sent it to him and he responded back and he's like, oh, you are so getting messed with.
17:27And he said, have you done my this clearing?
17:30And I said no, because I've never shown as a walk in.
17:34And he said, Pauline that clearing is to clear the interference, letting you see that you're a walk-in hmm.
17:42And we had a 12 hour time difference and our appointment was like six or seven the next morning for me.
17:48So that afternoon I did the clearing and it was like clouds parted.
17:52I sat down in front of my computer and I did my data collection, which I've done for hundreds of clients.
18:00And what I got was eight occupants.
18:03So can there, can there be multiple souls in a body at once?
18:07Like you had eight people in there?
18:09There's never meant to be, it's only ever meant to be one out, one in.
18:14Ok.
18:15And that was, that was the world that I had been taught.
18:18Never, never had anyone talked about there being more than one.
18:24And so so we get on the ca I I email him the spreadsheet, we get on the call and he, he said, OK, I looked at your stuff.
18:36He said you get eight, I get that you're nine looking at the other eight.
18:42So this is, this isn't, this isn't interfered with walking and the in the the outgoing soul is kept, it's not kind of allowed to leave and interference then gets embodied.
19:04So for with the first interfered with walk in you then have two souls and interference.
19:10Can I, can I just interrupt and ask why would that happen?
19:13Like what's the, what's the plan behind that walking in is a highly advanced technique for high dimensional souls, right?
19:27You've, you've, you've done a few rounds on earth before you're using that method to incarnate in, in my model of the world.
19:35The people that use that method to incarnate are here to affect positive change in the world, right?
19:41That's what I've always heard too.
19:42And oh, my whole body just broke up in goose bumps.
19:44So that is a way of stopping it.
19:48If, if you, if, if, if we can mess with your shift with your, with your walk in, you're essentially in a straitjacket because what happens is the body is only ever meant to have one soul in it.
20:02And when there's more than one plus throw in whatever interference showed up, you have an energetic soup and it is a mind bend nothing.
20:17It's like having one very clear signal going out and now you're interfering with it.
20:24So even you don't, you know, you're not yourself.
20:29So are these like evil entities coming in or are they just regular souls that have an agenda?
20:35Like who, who are these people that are trying to stop these higher dimensional souls?
20:39These are energies?
20:41I don't look at anything as good or bad.
20:44I look at it as what's their agenda, right?
20:50So their agenda is you know, I mean, you can, you can look at many, many different things, you know, the agenda might be that to keep the status quo.
21:04Well, we don't, we don't want change on the planet.
21:06There's been a lot of effort put into making earth the way it is right now, which is never how it was intended to be, right?
21:16So who's benefiting from earth being the way it is right now?
21:21I can pretty much guarantee you those are the energies at play in interfering with walk-ins.
21:26I don't name the energies until I'm actually working with a client.
21:30, because there's, there can be a lot of fear packed around the names and guess who packed the fear around it.
21:38They did.
21:39Yeah.
21:40So we don't look at it.
21:41Religion.
21:42Oh, my gosh.
21:43Religion has packed so much fear.
21:44, so I was,, at that point in time I believe there was seven occupants in the body.
21:56We, we cleared, we did the clearings.
22:00I slept for, I think five hours and I woke up and for the first time I could ever remember my head.
22:07There was, there was quiet in my head.
22:10I did not know that I had a committee in my head.
22:15So now are you the soul that was meant to walk in that higher dimensional soul that's in your body right now that there have been shifts at since then.
22:29So when you walk that path, so there's different kinds of shifts.
22:35So if you look at the oversoul as a diamond, it's too big to fit in a body.
22:40Right.
22:41So a facet of that oversoul will come in.
22:45I write about that.
22:46I write about that in my book actually.
22:48Do you?
22:49All right, perfect.
22:50So, so what can happen is, you know, the the oversoul sends in a facet and different types of shifts are that facet can leave and another facet comes in and you explore different different aspects of, of life or what, what can happen, which has been my last two shifts is an additional facet gets sent in for an expansion.
23:21Hm.
23:22So nothing leaves but it's, it's all your oversoul.
23:26So there's, there's no, there's no issue.
23:29So you can have a facet swap.
23:31You can have a facet addition or, and many, many times it's because there's been interference that whole diamond says we can't, we can't have the experiences.
23:44We came here to have the entire diamond leaves and a whole new diamond comes in.
23:49And that's, that's when you're gonna see really drastic changes, you can see changes in eye color, sexual orientation.
23:57my blood type changed that.
24:01That's totally what one of my questions was like, I've always heard it's pieces of the same oversoul or the same.
24:06I, I call it a higher self.
24:07But, but that makes sense.
24:10If there's a completely new oversoul coming in, there can be.
24:15And that's what happened to me that when I, when I talked about that shift for me with the going from, you know, wanting the, the fibromyalgia meds to if my body is supposed to heal itself, why isn't it?
24:30That was a new diamond.
24:31Hm.
24:33Because your thinking changed so much.
24:35So I don't, I think I told you this on our preliminary call.
24:37The, the book that led to my spiritual awakening in 2002 is called The Ancient Secret of The Flower of Life was written by a man named Dr Vow Melchizedek.
24:45And he was a walk in.
24:47And that was like my, when I had my spiritual awakening, when I was first introduced to all of this, I was introduced to walk ins and he, he almost died and he was laying in the hospital and his nephew was there and said something to him and he turned to him and he said, I'm sorry, your uncle is not here anymore.
25:03Like that was like one of the first things he said, it gives me like goose bumps to think about.
25:07Ok.
25:08So do you, do you have the memories of all of these other souls who have occupied Pauline's life?
25:15Do you like have Pauline's memories or are they, do, do you remember them through the lens of this new soul now?
25:22So the these are some of the symptoms of being a walk in?
25:28And so what happens is they, they fade and, and this is why it can be incredibly challenging for somebody especially and interfered with walk in even a, even a, even a walk in that hasn't had interference because let's say it's your birth family and you don't know you're a walking and suddenly you've got zero interest in these people, right?
26:00And, and the world tells you it's your parents, you need to love them.
26:03Oh, it's your siblings and you're just like they could be strangers on walking down the street and you could really beat yourself up.
26:12Four, not having that connection with them if you didn't know.
26:19Right.
26:20, and usually there's a pain, a pain point or pain points in people's lives where I'll give you an example.
26:36Somebody is just like, I, I just don't wanna be married to this person anymore.
26:45I don't have feelings for them.
26:46I don't have love for them.
26:49And some, you know, that's, that's some clients who come to me and my first thing, my first question is, when's your birthday?
26:58Hm.
26:59And they tell me their birth date and here's the thing, 3 to 4 months before a shift which generally happens on the body birthday.
27:09The natal birthday, 3 to 4 months before a shift.
27:12You, you're gonna find a wrapping up.
27:14, let's say one soul is leaving and another one's coming in believing soul is wrapping up.
27:22If they were in a relationship, they're wrapping that relationship up.
27:25Jobs are changing.
27:26There's a preparation time that's happening.
27:29Person may not know why they're doing it.
27:32They just feel this calling that, that I, this is, it's over.
27:37Yeah, and kind of cleaning up their own backyard before they leave because if they don't and many don't, many are interfered with and they don't do it.
27:51Now you're gonna have another soul that's come, gonna come in and say, yeah, this marriage is done and it won't be done with there.
28:01There's no relationship there.
28:03It's like a stranger breaking up with your boyfriend for you.
28:06They're not going to do it with the loving compassion that you, that you have.
28:12Totally.
28:13So I've also heard, I'm like, I'm a big fan of Dolores Cannon.
28:16I don't know if you're familiar with her work.
28:18So she talks about walk ins a little bit and when she talks about it, she says that sometimes the situation is that the soul that's here decides they don't want to be here anymore, right?
28:29They, they want to tear up their contract.
28:31They, they don't want to be on planet earth anymore.
28:34It's too much for them.
28:35They're, they're just for whatever reason, ready to go and sometimes a walk in will come in for that purpose because as she says, why waste a perfectly good body?
28:44Yeah.
28:44So do you see that happening too sometimes?
28:46Absolutely.
28:48Let's say, and this is what was the case in, in with me that you know, the the born in soul came in with an agenda, right?
28:59This, this is, you know, my public planning, this is, this is what I came here to experience and then, then the family dynamics didn't allow that.
29:11Hm.
29:12And so says, well, I I I'm out and another, another soul comes in.
29:18So yes, I completely agree with, with Dolores Cannon on that.
29:28And then when you, when you look at what I see because the people that come to me, they have mu many, many embodied souls I average between 11 and 15 for the people that come to me.
29:45Wow.
29:45So when people come to you it's, they're dealing with the same issue that you had.
29:50Exactly.
29:51Exactly.
29:53And,, so what's happened is that interference,, you know, a, a soul's come in and interference has taken over other souls come in and these are, I call them warrior souls because they've been through, they've been through some pretty rough stuff and the soul just is not viable, it's viable and they keep sending that facets in or to wake this all up.
30:22Hm.
30:24And that's the purpose.
30:27That's exactly.
30:28So when you've got someone who is relentlessly, like, they're gonna do anything, I'm here for a reason.
30:38That's a big clue that you're walking.
30:42That's a really big clue that you're, that you got walk in stuff going on.
30:46Say that again.
30:47Say that again.
30:48If you feel like you're here for a bigger reason, you, yeah, you, you know, you're here for a reason, a big purpose but nothing's going right.
30:58Ok.
31:00And, and you're just like, this isn't the way it's supposed to be this.
31:03You know, I've got, you've got this drive that's what drives many people to me is their, their soul is telling them something's wrong and they, they, they're like, well, why can't I find my purpose?
31:20And it's really about what's blocking my purpose.
31:23Hm.
31:24, and it's this energetic soup in the body, which is, includes interference which does not have the body's interests or at heart.
31:35So what ends up happening with multiple embodied occupants?
31:38Is that the they end up time sharing the body?
31:43So is it like, you know, it makes me think of multiple personality disorder?
31:48Like, do you think that's misdiagnosed?
31:50Oh, absolutely.
31:51I know.
31:53What was that show that just came out?
31:55My gosh, it was based on a true story.
31:59I'm gonna have to remember it, but it was like time sharing the same thing.
32:02It was like throughout the day this kid and it was based on a true story, could be any one of these personalities and they would just rotate through depending on what he needed.
32:12Yeah.
32:14And like I myself knew there was times I questioned whether I was bipolar.
32:20Yeah, whether I was schizophrenic, I knew I was depressed.
32:25So you've got to look at it and the body, what the body does is it reflects the energy that's inside of it.
32:35And let's say we'll, we'll talk about my case.
32:37So there's like 77 souls and body, lot of interference and only one that wanted to be there.
32:46So on the day or on the, on the times or let's let's let's break it down and just say, OK by day.
32:52So on the days that the primary occupant, the one that's meant to be there was up front.
32:59Life is good.
33:01They wanna be there on the other days they don't wanna be there.
33:06Get me out.
33:09a, a huge symptom of, of interfered with Watkins is being suicidal, attempting suicide cutting because the occupants that were meant to leave in their paradigm.
33:25The only way to get out is to kill the body.
33:29That makes sense.
33:30So when I hear things, like, you know, there's, you know, their life seemed to be fine and then, you know, they had their struggles but then one day they killed themselves.
33:43I, my first question is who was holding the microphone that day?
33:47Because the, the title of my book, who's holding the microphone is the euphemism for who was up front that day.
33:54Yeah.
33:54Who was making the choices and decisions in the life and in the body?
33:58What was their agenda?
33:59Did they want to get out?
34:01Perfect.
34:01I have the microphone today.
34:03Boom.
34:05Totally.
34:05So OK, so question because I now I keep going back to this multiple personality thing and I looked it up really quick.
34:10The crowded room is the name of that show for anyone that wants to watch it with Amanda Seyfried who I love.
34:16So in that instance, and in a lot of instances with multiple personality disorder, you the the the souls don't remember or the original Born in Soul doesn't remember what goes on when other people are holding the microphone to use your terminology.
34:33So is that the same thing that happens with walk-ins?
34:35Like if if someone, if one of those other souls is holding the microphone and they do something really destructive, for example, and then the the born in soul comes back.
34:45Do they have any memory of that?
34:47Is there any recollection or is it just like this blacked out period of time in their life?
34:50So, so everybody is in the body and the microphone is changing.
34:54Mhm So my recollection of that was that as the primary occupant, the one that was meant to be there when decisions were being made by other occupants that were affecting me.
35:17It was just this massive confusion of what is happening because you think it's you, you're not in awareness that it's not you, right?
35:26And this world is very much of you need to take responsibility and you need to try harder and you need to figure it out and I was very much brainwashed into that.
35:38And so you're kind of like, why am I doing this?
35:40I didn't have any awareness that there was multiple occupants.
35:45So I was, which was, which is the, the re you know, which was the the objective is I was caught in that vortex of confusion and misery sounds really scary like it is to be.
36:00It is.
36:00And I, and when we first started to talk and you would ask about my, my history, I said I felt very unsafe.
36:06Yeah, incredibly unsafe.
36:08And how could you feel, you know, there's what what a tremendous source of, of being unsafe when it's unsafe to be in your own body.
36:22And there'd be times this before I, before I knew what was going on, but pretty close to when we were, when I was,, probably within the 4 to 500 days of walking meditation before I figured it out because we cleared me on day 500.
36:38I was having a hard time staying in my body like it was like I was getting kicked out and I would be driving.
36:44I remember one day in particular I was driving to my natural path and I knew I wasn't in my body.
36:50I pulled my car over, I was in the middle median and I, I got out of my car and took my shoes off and I stood on the ground, stood on the grass to try and get back into my body.
37:01What does that feel like to not be in your body?
37:03What did that feel like in that moment?
37:06It's this woozy, disconnected.
37:14It's like there's a big barrier between you and your body, this wooziness, this like you, you just, it wasn't like I was looking at my body that it wasn't that at all.
37:30It was just this wooziness and knowing that I wasn't in control.
37:33Hm.
37:34That I had that I, I wasn't the one driving the car quite literally and figuratively, right?
37:42And to the point that, that I pulled over and in the, and, and got out and I was in the middle media and it wasn't like I had pulled off to the side.
37:51It was like this has to stop now.
37:54And,, I do find people come to me as well with that and, and it's like they're being kicked out of the body.
38:02So how do you, how do you, or how does one go about clearing out these other souls?
38:07Because that's the work you do now, right?
38:09Helping other people do that?
38:10Yes, that's the work I do now.
38:12So it's addressing the interference that came in and orchestrated with, there's there can be different interference with each occupant you deal with, with each occupant as an individual.
38:27OK.
38:27What's, what's everything involved with occupant one?
38:30What's everything involved with occupant two?
38:31What's the interference?
38:33And then, then it's about what, what, what agreements were made?
38:41It's about breaking or satisfying the agreements so that the agreements no longer exist?
38:50And then once, once those contracts are broken or satisfied, does the soul just kind of disperse?
38:57And once, once, once, once it can.
39:01So once the interference has been cleared, once the the agreements and contracts have been cleared, then it leaves the body and you can feel it leave.
39:09The, the people can feel it leave.
39:11I I because I hold that container, I can feel it leave.
39:18So how many souls are in your body right now?
39:20Are you just back down to 11, there's only ever meant to be one.
39:23The body doesn't function.
39:24Well, the body doesn't function when there's more than one.
39:28And one of the biggest symptoms of interfere with Watkins is when you're having all these weird random illnesses.
39:37And it's like the body is, the body manifests the energy that's in it.
39:43And let's say you've got seven occupants, it's manifesting the potential illnesses of seven occupants and you've got six who don't wanna be there, severely depressed bodies manifesting depression.
39:59That's, that's why things can shift like that.
40:04Yeah, it makes me think about what I was saying way back in the beginning of this call.
40:08I think before we even started about illness is often comes from repressed emotions or that we're not on our path or we're not meant to be doing what we're doing.
40:20And then imagine that times seven, I can see how that would just be chaos happening.
40:25Absolute chaos.
40:27And so I talk to bodies.
40:30That's, that's what I do.
40:32That's because they, they know exact, the body knows exactly what's going on.
40:37There's only ever two root causes of illness and one is emotional and one is energetic.
40:46If unaddressed, it then becomes physical.
40:52Yeah, I've heard that before.
40:53It starts in your energy field.
40:54It starts with your Yeah.
40:57And I, yeah, I talk all the time about emotions for sure.
41:00So you can look at Western Western medicine and it, which only deals with the physical, it's never physical, the, the body might adopt it if it's been around long enough.
41:15So if you're not going after the root cause, which is emotional or energetic or both, then you're never going to heal a big part.
41:27D doing the walk in clearings is one part, many of the people that come to me had their first interfered with walking and young childhood.
41:39I was eight, the youngest person I had was four.
41:42So now if you look at it, you've spent your whole life, coping and adapting to multiple occupants and embodied interference.
41:56So, you know, the the the walking clearings take however many hours they take.
42:01But what's even more important to me is the integration period, which is the clearing out of all the limiting decisions, beliefs clearing the body out of all that old stock stuff so that the body isn't being held into the past with all this stuck stuff and it can, it can, it can go, it can, it can frequently match to the primary occupant.
42:32Does that stuff tend to linger around even after the other souls have left?
42:38Yes, because there's be, I mean, you're, you're clearing out the energetic baggage, but then you have, you have all the emotions that the body that were trapped in the body, right?
42:50The occupants take their stuff.
42:51But then now the body experienced it all and you know, we're only ever meant to feeling emotion feel it, sit with it, let it transmute and change.
43:04And when you are not allowed to do that, all that energy is stuck in the body, you've got to release.
43:09It makes sense.
43:11So the integration process to me is is, is so, so important.
43:19And that's, that's what I specialize in as well is putting people in a container where with modalities and homework and to, to, to identify what are, what are all the limitations here.
43:40Yeah, because some of it is just so subtle.
43:43It's you just think it's who you are and one client and she's like, I'm, oh, I'm just a homebody and I, I mean that was a huge heavy for me.
43:53That was just like, oh, that is so not the truth but she, she took that on as her identity.
44:00So through the process it's, it's clearing all that stuff out.
44:06So that how do you, how do you ever really know who you are then?
44:10Right?
44:10How do you, how do you know who your current current primary occupant is if is if you're still owning the stuff from previous occupants?
44:18And like this, this diamond came in in November of 2020.
44:25I own nothing before that.
44:26It's not me.
44:28Wow.
44:29So it's this, this walk in for you is really recent.
44:33This is when this diamond came in.
44:35The the most recent facet edition was on my birthday about two weeks ago, three weeks ago So is there like a sense of feeling ungrounded if there's constantly this rotation of new souls coming in?
44:48No, because for me, the facet additions, I've had them once a year.
44:57So there is a sense that something's gonna happen and there's a sense of an integration period after.
45:05But for me, this, this one, it was maybe a week I knew it was coming.
45:13And it, it's when you're not aware, when you're not aware that you're a walk-in, when you're not aware that you have complications and what the world mirrors back to you is mental illness, not trying hard enough.
45:28And and you start to own that, you start to think, well, maybe I'm not meant all these, all these visions and all these things.
45:37I, all these images I'm shown of the life I'm meant to live.
45:42Maybe I'm maybe I'm not supposed to have that almost like the world is gaslighting you the world.
45:49Well, when you, when you, when you incarnate as a walk in with a purpose, you're already in a world that's gaslighting you.
45:58Because one of one of my biggest challenges has been that very little in the world, reflex is, is even comfortable to look at or reflects who I am.
46:09And that's because I'm here to change it.
46:12Yeah.
46:12Not to be part of it.
46:16It's I and and part of my process has been walking my path thinking, honing my guidance so that it is so strong and I, and IC continuing to clear out my body so that I can, I have the strength to look at what's happening in the world because it's not, it's, it's not good.
46:40It's not how it was ever meant to be and continuing to walk my path and say, but where are the walk ins?
46:51Yeah, it reminds me of that quote that I've seen circulating on social media.
46:54It's something like if you find that you don't belong in the world, it's because you're here to help create a new one.
47:00Exactly.
47:01Exactly.
47:02And, and many people are like, they're, they're upset because they don't, they don't fit into the world.
47:08Rejoice if you don't fit into the world because who wants to fit into what's happening now?
47:14Right.
47:14And if, if you don't fit in what it's for a reason, it's, it's, it's for a specific purpose but many, many people, they've tried so many things to find their purpose to, to feel some kind of feel somewhat ok in their body, to feel somewhat like, ok, just in life and they got really discouraged and then they'll hear about walking and something in their body and their soul will be like, that's for you.
47:51Anyone listening to this.
47:53And there's two, there's two, there's two ways it can happen.
47:57One is,, that you just have a knowing that, oh my gosh, there's something there for you.
48:04You could get goosebumps, you could get excited.
48:06I I call it my cells dancing right?
48:08When, when something is for me, my cells start dancing.
48:12I like that.
48:13The other, the other way it could happen is absolute rejection, anger dismissal.
48:23And it's like, what is that?
48:24That's garbage that, that there's no way.
48:27What, what a crazy woman she is.
48:31Well, I'm here to tell you that that reaction means you're in residence.
48:41You may be in rejection of it, but you are in resonance with it.
48:46I like that.
48:47I like that perspective a lot.
48:48And really it is the most exciting time to be alive right now, right?
48:52The earth is splitting 3d and five D like you said, there's so many souls here.
48:57I, I'm a volunteer.
48:59You're walking, there's so many souls here that are here to help humanity and help the planet rise in consciousness and usher us into this new world.
49:08So it's, you know, if, if you're, if you're feeling listeners like Pauline said that it's hard to look at what's going on in the world right now.
49:20It's because you're meant to shift your attention to the five D, right?
49:24But, but the, but it's trying to snare you in.
49:27Oh Totally the fear, right?
49:29It's, it's trying to keep you there.
49:34And I know some people that, that walk their path by not paying any attention to it.
49:39Fair enough.
49:39That's, you know, for me, I, I, I watch what's going on to see where my triggers are.
49:53I watch what's going on.
49:56Not, I don't immerse myself in it by any means to also gauge where the, the global consciousness is at.
50:06What, what's happening tells you where that if there had been any shifts in the global consciousness, I think that's really important what you said because you don't want to hide your head in the sand and pretend like these things aren't going on, but you don't want to be sucked into them, right?
50:20You can use them for information and especially with your own triggers because everything is a mirror back to you, right?
50:26That shows you where you need healing or where you're in resonance.
50:29Yeah.
50:30Right.
50:31So if you, if you've truly healed something, you're not in resonance, you're not in resonance with it.
50:38You said something just a second ago that I wanted to expand on.
50:46I don't know what it was.
50:49It's, it's OK.
50:50I know.
50:51I know we have a hard stop today.
50:53So, you know, is there anything else you want to share before?
50:58before I ask listeners or before I ask you to tell listeners how they can get a hold of you?
51:02Yeah, I do.
51:03What I wanna say is if this is in any way, resonating, resonating with you, you're not crazy.
51:10This is your path.
51:13What, to what extent?
51:14I don't know.
51:17But it's incumbent on you to act the system and the world as it is, is doing a tremendous job for what it was designed to do, which is to keep everybody in fear and inaction.
51:36You have free will and when you choose to exert that intention is so powerful, but you have to take action.
51:48You have to say I, I, I don't want this.
51:50I, I didn't know what to do.
51:53Keep trying, keep trying.
51:58There are, yeah.
51:59Yeah.
52:01You're not crazy.
52:03The world's crazy.
52:04You're not.
52:06And it's trying to tell you the opposite.
52:11I think that's so important and I think that that message can go, it can touch people even if they're not experiencing these symptoms, even if there's something else going on.
52:21You know, like take action, take responsibility for your own life, you have your own free will.
52:28You know, I think that's a great message overall.
52:31You're not responsible for the, for the shit show that's going on.
52:34You're responsible for taking action to extricate yourself from it.
52:38Yes.
52:40Very important.
52:41There's a quote on healing that I like.
52:43That's similar to that.
52:44It's like you're not responsible for what happened to you, but you solely 100% are responsible for your own healing.
52:50Yeah.
52:50You gotta change different actions, different behaviors.
52:53If, if the world has you in inertia and victimhood in an and inaction then to get out of it, you need to take action and you need to gain momentum.
53:06People say, well, I've tried that intention.
53:10Yeah.
53:11Attention you're only a victim if you choose to be one.
53:15So I feel like we could chat forever, but I know we have a hard stop.
53:18So, can you tell people how they can get in touch with you where they can find you?
53:22Absolutely.
53:23So my website is Pauline Maguire dot com.
53:29So in terms of next steps, so you've heard this, you're in resonance with this information.
53:35Go to my website I have, it's called an Energetic Free Will quiz.
53:41Take the quiz.
53:43It will give you a number from 0 to 21.
53:470 is you're not interfered with at all.
53:5121 is you got walk in stuff going on and you have other interference stuff going on.
53:58Take the quiz, it will give you a, it'll give you you, you'll get an email, it'll give you a rating.
54:06You can be green, yellow, red or red alert with the quiz.
54:16You will have the opportunity to book a free 20 minute call with me.
54:21And when I say it's free, it's free.
54:22There's absolutely no obligation.
54:24I will use that 20 minutes to answer any questions that you have and give you your next step.
54:32Well, that sounds like a pretty amazing deal.
54:35And everyone, if you're resonating with us, I hope you jump on it.
54:39I'm gonna go take the quiz.
54:41I don't think I have a walk in, but it just, it sounds like an interesting thing to do.
54:45So all the links will be in the show notes, so you'll be able to find them there.
54:49And thank you so much for everyone for tuning in.
54:52Check out the show notes for links to my work as well.
54:55My book, change your mind and change your reality.
54:57Check out Pauline's book as well.
54:59Yes, my book is on my website as well.
55:01Yeah.
55:01Sorry, I forgot that it's ok.
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